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It is starting to appear like many Americans are just 'done' with the whole -- vt90 04/28/2020 2:10PM
It is sad so many don't care about themselves or others they may affect ** -- NMB Hokie 04/28/2020 6:13PM Considering the actual mortality rate is a few orders of magnitude less -- Hokie CPA 04/28/2020 8:03PM Yep ** -- ColoVT82 04/28/2020 8:31PM A “law” that 10-15% of the public flouts -- mancunian 04/28/2020 5:25PM Believe it or not, we still have a constitution and rights -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:34PM There's no right that you're allowed to infect other people with a disease. -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:51PM You could always infect and kill someone going through chemo with any ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 6:22PM But I'm not simply talking about people that are vulnerable. I agree those -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:31PM I agree with many of your points but here is another question ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 6:39PM Agreed. Not mutually exclusive at all just tricky to find the right -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:40PM And you have no right to restrict my freedom of movement and association ** -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 6:14PM Who is being forced to go anywhere? We are being forced to NOT go anywhere ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:58PM I mean you did for one. Or did you not say "not sure how we eat" -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:00PM Have it delivered? tell them to leave it at the front door -- fordham 04/28/2020 6:04PM So you're backtracking on your claim that we'll all starve if we can't -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:12PM Still taking our shoes off at the airport 18.5 yrs later -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:44PM As I said, the government has zero legal foundation to do this ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 5:30PM If one force quarantine someone, they best prove they have an infected an -- ColoVT82 04/28/2020 6:02PM And when the public sees things like “you can’t buy seeds” or -- mancunian 04/28/2020 5:35PM Hasn't impacted me. That's my daily routine anyway. ** -- MikeVT85 04/28/2020 4:57PM Sweden's economy will contract more than during the financial crisis -- lchoro 04/28/2020 4:52PM Illinois Judge told Gov. he way overstepped his authority today -- fordham 04/28/2020 4:46PM "I'm oppressed!" ** -- typed by ben 04/28/2020 7:27PM Except it doesn't work that way. The people taking the risks are not -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 4:50PM You do realize how many people are still out in public, right? -- fordham 04/28/2020 4:58PM How exactly are people protecting themselves? If I wear a mask that -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:02PM Using sanitizer, not touching face and using a mask -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:12PM A couple of doctors have told me masks -- mancunian 04/28/2020 5:28PM Unless they mean mask like shirt over your face, they're wrong ** -- Synaesthesia 04/28/2020 9:49PM You acknowledge there's a huge difference between "all stay in bubbles" and -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:15PM People go out to earn a living and pay for their lives. Nobody -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:21PM I'm not sure you're getting my point. And your HIV comparison is beyond -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:44PM Oh you must stop playing the victim card -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 6:12PM So house arrest with a release for work, when did we all get convicted? ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:49PM You're still not addressing my points and instead making up your own to -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:50PM Shutdown was to buy time for hospitals to get gear. NOT to eradicate virus. -- BobG 04/28/2020 4:23PM I had hoped we'd be further along in terms of testing capacity at this -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 4:52PM I think most states used the time wisely. I think the federal gov is mixed -- HokieAl 04/28/2020 5:30PM We are further along but testing will solve nothing. Many people have no -- fordham 04/28/2020 4:56PM I have yet to read how test and test/trace works in actual execution. And -- ColoVT82 04/28/2020 5:06PM How do you trace someone that never knew they had it? ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:24PM Yep ** -- ColoVT82 04/28/2020 6:04PM IMO we really need the antibody test to see how many have had it already -- coshokie 04/28/2020 5:06PM Agree. Im awaiting the next big case AB test report. ** -- ColoVT82 04/28/2020 5:08PM Testing is almost literally the entire ballgame. ** -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 4:59PM Who are you testing? ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:02PM Random people to the greatest extent possible ** -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:04PM That's not much of an answer -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:07PM I said below, ideally about 3-5M people/day is what you'd want -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:12PM As part of an intelligently crafted sampling regime. -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:16PM Lol...no. We sample populations all the time. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:21PM Come on be serious -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:26PM I just meant choosing the sample is very doable. Obviously we won't... -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:29PM Gotcha ** -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:30PM Not busting on you but how do you stop 3-5 million per day to be tested -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:16PM It's not about your specific result. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:18PM Except per the antibody tests the current testing is anywhere from 50-80 -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:23PM That is not at all true regarding antibody test accuracy -- HokieAl 04/28/2020 5:45PM Yeah, that's just not accurate. ** -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:26PM What is not accurate? ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:27PM Everything you said in that post. The antibody testing hasn't proven... -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:33PM So you believe the virus testing 100% but give no belief in the antibody -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:45PM No, I'm saying the conclusions you are drawing from the antibody testing... -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 6:33PM By the way, I am all for antibody testing and as soon as the red cross -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:29PM I'll take multiple strawmen for $100 Alex. ** -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 4:58PM How do you test everyone every day? Who is going to get tested if -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:01PM I never said anything about testing everyone every day. That was one of -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:03PM How many do you think need to be tested -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:11PM You don't test everyone every day. Ideally you test about 3-5M people/day. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:03PM Subjects would be chosen..... -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:09PM Like jury duty basically, but make it a gazillion times more convenient. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:14PM And if someone refuses -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:17PM I'm not the one clamoring for everything to open up asap. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:23PM I don't disagree with you -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:27PM It's definitely not easy. A good first step would be people... -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:39PM Hunger is an awful strong motivator, I will ask again, what is your -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:26PM I'm literally giving you the playbook for getting people back to work. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:37PM Your plan does not even enter the realm of feasible ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:39PM In America? Right now? Yeah, I'm not optimistic. -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:42PM Seat belts don't prevent everyone from dying. Why should we bother having -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:45PM And how could we ever put them on every seat in every car? Not feasible! ** -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 6:34PM Now I'm reminded of a video I watched in 2010. I had gotten a speeding -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:36PM Strawman -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 6:19PM 3-5 million per day ?????? so in a month you have tested half all humans i -- fordham 04/28/2020 5:09PM Yeah, we'll start with you. Out of the car, longhair. ** -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 5:16PM Well yea its long, can't get a haircut now!!! ** -- fordham 04/28/2020 6:05PM Yep, they said the #1 reason was to "flatten the curve" -- EDGEMAN 04/28/2020 4:48PM And the facts are there were only some very urban, concentrated places -- fordham 04/28/2020 4:50PM I was out today and traffic, while down to 10% of normal in CLT two weeks -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 4:18PM -1 ** -- Stork 04/28/2020 4:15PM Note that I didn't say 'I' had done anything ... and I haven't. -- vt90 04/28/2020 4:21PM Yep. ** -- ColoVT82 04/28/2020 4:13PM Where we live we have it a lot better than most folks. Can't imagine living -- SavannaHokie 04/28/2020 4:12PM Re: A couple weeks ago in Blacksburg... -- TJE_Hokie 04/28/2020 5:29PM Crisis is the mother of creation. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 4:19PM Been doing Zoom 'Happy Hours' but as soon as the weather gets -- TechMomof2 04/28/2020 3:19PM Hoosband had a video appt with the doctor this afternoon. -- GFallsFan 04/28/2020 3:34PM Since my son's dental office is closed in Richmond, our relatives all over -- TechMomof2 04/28/2020 4:02PM We are doing a neighborhood 'block party' this weekend - won it from a ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 3:47PM You're right. Many Americans are selfish aholes. ** -- VTSnake 04/28/2020 3:19PM And many are sheep! ** -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 4:25PM Quite a few here too ** -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 5:03PM It's the same couple on every thread...take a few days off and they are -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 5:57PM Hitting every opposing view like calling people who don't follow their line -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:59PM Stay home...traffic is great! ** -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 6:00PM I have been thanks. Editing this b/c it came across way snarkier than I -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:06PM Absolut is a victim ** -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 6:16PM Just as a courtesy wanted to let you know I'm not responding to any of your -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:22PM I wouldn't either if I had been so thoroughly exposed as a tyrant ** -- Teewinot 04/28/2020 6:28PM Nope...office is still open thankfully. We practice social distancing -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 6:09PM That's a completely different point. I'm talking people going out b/c they -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:11PM I hear you, and certainly people have different views on this. Probably -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 6:15PM You as well. I definitely don't think it's a black and white answer there -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:18PM Sigh... the inane "sheep" reply. Such tired or logically inaccurate trope. ** -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 4:57PM Funny. I was just as smart and bored as you when I was 17, too. :-) ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 5:23PM I think you've got it backwards. It's people with the mentality of a 17 -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:02PM Well of course you contend you know better. It’s not so much knowledge -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 6:12PM Who said anything about me knowing better? You said that, not me. I'm -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:15PM “Sigh” “tropes” “tired”. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 6:28PM Yes.. calling people sheep b/c they disagree is a tired trope. A pet peeve -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:34PM Only a fractional few call people sheep, however. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 6:39PM W/ any luck within a couple of days that'll to be down to close to zero ** -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:41PM Culling the herd works in mysterious ways. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 6:43PM As if calling anyone who disagrees selfish aholes is a well thought out -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 6:05PM I'm pretty sure I said people in general and I didn't use that phrasing. -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:10PM All good..see above. ** -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 6:17PM Agreed. Take care and be safe. ** -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 6:18PM Or cult members ** -- Brown Water 04/28/2020 4:56PM When posting, avoid the topics of politics, religion, and race. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 5:30PM He can't help himself but always seems to get a pass. ** -- Hockey Dad 04/28/2020 5:59PM Really ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 6:12PM Representin'? ** -- PhotoHokieNC 04/28/2020 4:20PM +1000 ** -- Stork 04/28/2020 4:15PM Lighten up Francis! :( ** -- Rodman6565 04/28/2020 3:50PM I was trying to put it much more delicately :-) ** -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 3:21PM I only have so much time betweem work/meetings. Quicker to he blunt! ** -- VTSnake 04/28/2020 5:19PM Don't sugar coat it, your chance for an underlying health issue goes up :-) ** -- coshokie 04/28/2020 3:25PM At some point you put stress on society that costs more lives by -- HokieDan95 04/28/2020 3:02PM I doubt quarantine will cost "more" lives than C19, but the -- Tafkam Hokie 04/28/2020 3:12PM ...we gave it all we could ** -- chumley 04/28/2020 3:06PM Quarantine fatigue is setting in. i'm over it** -- kingofcassell 04/28/2020 2:51PM I mean, everybody obviously hates it, but polling still indicates most... -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 2:48PM People say they want restictions to stay, just not for ME ** -- hookie 04/28/2020 3:29PM Yep... it's the same way that people want to cut funding or taxes for any -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 4:54PM Yeah, but there's a significant minority that doesn't feel that way. -- Hokie360 04/28/2020 2:54PM Nope, closer to 80-20 and is that way across most demographics. ** -- Gobbler-100 04/28/2020 4:54PM Your house? -- DaveVT 04/28/2020 2:41PM LOL - possibly. ** -- vt90 04/28/2020 2:58PM People don’t spend money ON the beach. -- Femoyer Hokie 04/28/2020 2:38PM ^^^never played high stakes Washers^^^ -- 48zip 04/28/2020 4:33PM You need to go to A1-Kurtz in Snellville -- B777Fr8Dog 04/28/2020 2:23PM As long as we stay under the curve we need to figure out what can be -- PineyGladeHokie 04/28/2020 2:22PM Sweden says their next phase is herd immunity. -- GreenvilleVT 04/28/2020 2:37PM That will be interesting for sure. To clarify they say they've achieved 30 -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:43PM Right they didn't flatten the curve -- HokieForever 04/28/2020 2:53PM I just don't see how the herd immunity math adds up... on a micro level or -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:58PM Not everyone gets it at once -- HokieForever 04/28/2020 3:27PM I thought about that but that's still a lot of infected people to handle -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 3:31PM Seems the 10% number is very high -- coshokie 04/28/2020 3:12PM Thank you for the link. I'm not sure how that squares with the VDH site. -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 3:20PM Yeah, thats the problem with all of this, the data is not consistent -- coshokie 04/28/2020 3:23PM I'm guessing it's a mix of protecting the vulnerable while exposing those -- Hokie360 04/28/2020 3:07PM Is there enough "young and healthy" people to hit 70%? I also think we -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 3:10PM It may be about right. Per wiki, US over age 65 is about 16% of population. -- Hokie360 04/28/2020 3:18PM It's an interesting math problem for sure. I think it interests me b/c -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 3:24PM Wearing masks is another thing that gets me. I see people saying they -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:25PM Yep....And you're right, it is literally the minimalist thing you can do -- tylerhokie 04/28/2020 2:44PM Like when Sherriff Teasle thought Col Trautman showed up to protect Rambo -- HokieDan95 04/28/2020 2:42PM Exactly... maybe that's what the average American needs.. a Rambo analogy. ** -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:44PM What if I have my Antibody Gold Card? 😉 ** -- B777Fr8Dog 04/28/2020 2:29PM Americans have zero patience. Its a get it now society and we will not be -- UTPr0sim 04/28/2020 2:20PM Maybe the post of the century so far. It's been this way since the early -- wc hokie 04/28/2020 3:50PM Yep. I can understand wanting to get back to work and make money. I don't -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:21PM Just proves that people (in general terms, not any one person) are stubborn -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:16PM I agree with you in principle, but ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 2:30PM Young, smart and responsible? In what fairy tale? There are plenty of -- 81_Hokie 04/28/2020 4:23PM Oh my. That is some statement. ** -- Stork 04/28/2020 4:17PM Americans being forced not to work are literally running out of food -- fordham 04/28/2020 4:49PM Younger people....smart and responsible? ** -- Brown Water 04/28/2020 2:47PM Usually they just kill themselves. Now they kill the rest of us. -- Stork 04/28/2020 4:18PM You and I are older and we don't qualify either. ** -- vt90 04/28/2020 2:59PM I think we've pretty much proven that people (younger, healthier, or not) -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:37PM Only the idiots are shown on the news and that is not the majority ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 3:04PM Who said anything about "everyone remains in their cars"? I most definitely -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 3:08PM Yeah - the LA guy was a d-bag ... -- vt90 04/28/2020 3:11PM To expand on that, I read one of the worst age groups as far as staying -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:11PM Oh don't get me wrong. I wasn't limiting my idiots to the young people. -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 5:07PM I'm not worried about the recreation, I'm worried about -- coshokie 04/28/2020 2:25PM Like I said... it's one thing to worry about small business and people -- AbsolutVT03 04/28/2020 2:29PM Yeah- they can't arrest everyone- where would they put you ** -- bigbadbird 04/28/2020 2:12PM And they are letting people out to stop them from getting.... ;) ** -- Vtskier1 04/28/2020 2:18PM
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