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Promotion/Relegation isn't in the American culture though. If it was, then

MLS would already be doing it now. If anything, I would think the elite schools will want to keep this league exclusive in order to drive up its value. Otherwise, there is a risk that a school like JMU could end up crashing the party and potentially de-value the product while JMU collects that phat check. Plus, there is no guarantee that a promoted school will meet all the minimum requirements associated with the league. Beside, if the college football is truly going to include a promotion/relegation system, then it probably should include DI-FBS, DI-FCS, DII, and DIII schools. FWIW the English Football League System has 21 tiers.

Another reason the Big XII may be doing its expansion in phase is the conference is waiting to see if there are any changes to the rule. For example, if conferences no longer have to have divisions and play a round robin schedule (if a conference with more than 12 teams eliminates the divisions), then it gives the Big XII more on which schools to include on its target list. However, if the conferences with 12+ members still must divide up into 2 divisions and play a round robin division schedule or play a round robin conference schedule (if there are no divisions), then the target list may be much smaller even if the Big XII decides to incorporate rotating pods/quads.

Now what could be interesting to see play out is if the Pac-12 decides to add Boise State and UNLV to become the Pac-14 in an effort to try to block the Big XII from expanding into the Pac-12's territory. Boise State could be placed in the North Division and UNLV in the South Division to allow the Pac-14 to continue along without missing a beat. If that were to happen, the Big XII may decide to not expand west beyond BYU because Nevada and the remaining CA schools are not as desirable since UNLV is no longer an option. FWIW Boise State and Memphis appear to be the leading candidate if the Big XII implement Phase 2 of its expansion plan. At least what is written at the end of the article is giving people the impression the Big XII isn't done. If the Big XII expands to 14, then it may opt to implement Phase 3 especially if UNLV, San Diego St, maybe South Florida, etc. are still available.

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Dabo Swinney on CFB: "40 or 50 teams and a commissioner" -- goldendomer 04/09/2022 12:01AM

6 conferences of 7 teams each -- obguthr 04/10/2022 11:03AM

UNC and UVA will follow the money ** -- MrFantastic! 04/12/2022 05:56AM

How much television revenue would it generate? ** -- EDGEMAN 04/11/2022 10:06AM

Gee, maybe there will be a TRANSFORMATION COMMITTEE that works on this -- daveinop 04/10/2022 08:36AM

My first question: Would VT follow into this new alignment? ** -- VTNSC 04/09/2022 12:27PM

If we are talking closer to 40 teams, then probably not unless VT -- VTHokie2000 04/09/2022 2:41PM

For the sake of argument, what impact would be on VT if it were included -- IB4TECH 04/16/2022 09:19AM

Good question. It might depend on what "rules" the group agrees upon. -- VTHokie2000 04/16/2022 11:25AM

Currently only about 15 or fewer schools average 80,000. VT typically ranks -- wwhokie1 04/13/2022 3:00PM

The number was just a random number I threw out there. -- VTHokie2000 04/13/2022 3:41PM

According to a 2020 article by College Football News the top 40 in -- wwhokie1 04/13/2022 5:25PM

I don't disagree if attendance is the deciding factor. -- VTHokie2000 04/13/2022 5:30PM

Its not atemdamce. Its money -- Mercury 04/11/2022 08:18AM

Attendance will be a factor though because this league will want programs -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 04:18AM

Stadium capacity does not need to increase. ** -- marcbvtgm 04/10/2022 3:47PM

If the new league decides to have a minimum stadium requirement in order -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 04:20AM

Lane is in the Top 25 in stadium capacity right now. -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 3:35PM

Yes, VT can add to Lane. However, there is no guarantee that the -- VTHokie2000 04/09/2022 6:11PM

Ok lets do math -- Mercury 04/11/2022 08:20AM

And consider the impact of money spent. Money spent on expanding Lane will -- wwhokie1 04/13/2022 5:33PM

Maybe decrease the price of admission or give unsold tickets to... -- EDGEMAN 04/14/2022 09:49AM

A 20 team league is way too small. Would destroy interest ** -- jesuisvtguy 04/11/2022 12:04AM

Maybe it will and maybe it won't. If the schools truly commit to the idea, -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 04:06AM

If it is 16-20 teams, we won't be in it anyway. -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 9:56PM

As I stated before if the league is 40-50 teams, then VT could still -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 04:29AM

I'm assuming they won't do it this way if they do it at all. -- Maroon Baboon 04/12/2022 1:36PM

Why use Wyoming as an example? I certainly never used Wyoming -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 10:09PM

I didn't see your list, but it really doesn't matter. -- Maroon Baboon 04/12/2022 11:14PM

I don't believe the Big XII is done expanding. Likewise, I wouldn't -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 11:22PM

You may be right. And demographics change over time. That's all the more -- Maroon Baboon 04/12/2022 11:58PM

Promotion/Relegation isn't in the American culture though. If it was, then -- VTHokie2000 04/13/2022 2:11PM

I realize it isn't in the American sports culture, but it should be. -- Maroon Baboon 04/13/2022 3:34PM

Depending on how things play out, it may not take JMU as long as you think -- VTHokie2000 04/13/2022 3:51PM

Duplicate post. Sorry. Delete. Thanks.** -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 9:57PM

Who says who is in or out? -- 33laszlo99 04/09/2022 3:12PM

Typically those paying for it have a say. If it's ESPN TV money they will. ** -- RTFC 04/10/2022 10:27PM

Actually, I didn't have anyone in mind because it may end up being -- VTHokie2000 04/09/2022 5:58PM

And to whose benefit would it be if conferences fractured and disposed of -- 33laszlo99 04/09/2022 8:24PM

The schools' benefit. Fewer teams = larger piece of pie for each school -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 04:46AM

Dabo ** -- Mercury 04/09/2022 4:47PM

Dabo is right that the P5 need their own setup. -- Hokester 04/09/2022 10:01AM

Might as well move into an NFL-EPL hybrid model for football -- EDGEMAN 04/09/2022 11:26AM

EFL yes. NFL no. -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 3:51PM

I think stadium size would be a good qualifier -- EDGEMAN 04/09/2022 6:27PM

Should keep in mind that NFL average capacity does not even reach 70,000 ** -- wwhokie1 04/13/2022 5:37PM

Average attendance would be better. -- obguthr 04/10/2022 12:29PM

In that case, Miami will definitely be "out" ** -- EDGEMAN 04/10/2022 1:39PM

Pitt has a big stadium that they don't own, that is half full usually. -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 9:19PM

Attendance will force schools to adjust their ticket prices -- EDGEMAN 04/10/2022 08:35AM

Where do they draw the line? -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 12:32AM

Number of teams will ultimately be informed by media content requirement -- Synaesthesia 04/09/2022 12:32PM

It's all predicated on how many regular season games each school will play -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 3:15PM

I don't hate the idea of relegation; 'boundary' programs are always hurt -- Synaesthesia 04/09/2022 3:46PM

When did UConn announce it was returning to DI-FCS in football? -- VTHokie2000 04/09/2022 6:14PM

You're right, I thought it was finalized, but just under consideration ** -- Synaesthesia 04/09/2022 6:48PM

No worries. Personally, I do think UConn and UMass should both switch -- VTHokie2000 04/09/2022 7:30PM

Valid concerns. If you look at the EFL, they have yo-yo clubs. -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 4:03PM

The problem with doing it every year is that all the participating teams -- VTHokie2000 04/09/2022 6:22PM

It can and should be every year. And the home and away thing won't be -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 10:03PM

You can't be sure it won't be a problem though. For example, let say this -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 04:11AM

Actually, this schedule makes the home games more of a lock. -- Maroon Baboon 04/12/2022 11:58AM

All teams aren't equal though and that is the point you are overlooking or -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 10:25PM

I'm not over looking it. But when you play a legit FULL schedule -- Maroon Baboon 04/12/2022 11:03PM

But you can't say that VT's home schedule is equal to its away schedule -- VTHokie2000 04/12/2022 11:16PM

I will address your concerns one at a time -- Maroon Baboon 04/13/2022 12:07AM

I hate to disappoint you, but your A) answer failed to address my -- VTHokie2000 04/13/2022 09:48AM

To clarify. -- Maroon Baboon 04/13/2022 11:21AM

To clarify - I wasn't asking you to try to persuade me on the position -- VTHokie2000 04/13/2022 11:53AM

Time to think outside the box -- 33laszlo99 04/09/2022 2:34PM

ESPN is involved because - you are right -- RTFC 04/10/2022 10:50PM

Totally agree about ESPN. Their interests are counter to the longterm -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 3:24PM

The thing is though, they don't do that in the many pro sports with a cap -- Synaesthesia 04/09/2022 3:22PM

We are in the wild west for now. -- goldendomer 04/09/2022 12:46AM

I see another division (P-4 or P-5) -- Old Line Hokie 04/09/2022 08:36AM

The problem is, conferences are no longer equal. -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 4:17PM

When was the last time conferences were equal? ** -- Old Line Hokie 04/09/2022 8:10PM

Never. But the disparity was much closer in the past. Between 1968 and 1981 -- Maroon Baboon 04/09/2022 11:41PM

My guess now is 48, I really thought it would be 4 PC’s w/ 16, but it’s -- Stech 04/09/2022 03:26AM

Question for thought -- Mercury 04/09/2022 07:42AM

VT, the university, has for decades been more alike the Big 10 -- Synaesthesia 04/09/2022 2:33PM

Agreed, but having that elusive AAU card would still be helpful ** -- obguthr 04/10/2022 11:08AM

Thank you so much !!!!!! bingo -- Mercury 04/09/2022 4:55PM

Promotion/Relegation isn't in the American culture though. If it was, then

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