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Yes I get that, I was proposing an alternative approach to roster creation

Where you're not hunting for players who are demanding top dollar but instead using your assets to play a volume game to get as many kids coming through the program as possible to find diamonds in the rough.

Or in another example, you have more resources and you can take advantage of them.

An example, pretend you're FSU and spent $17M on basketball in 2020 compared to VT's $8M. You're buying all the top recruits you want but there's this ace shooter in Orlando named Hunter Cattoor who you think has potential but can't offer because you already signed six 7 footers. He's only got an offer from one crappy D1 school in a tiny conference and you can get him for $20k plus he's in-state so financial burden is minimal.

You're already paying your other recruits way more than that and some are bound to flame out so the rent-a-player approach could net you a guy who fills a specialty role for the price of one recruiting trip on a private jet.

FSU can easily foot that bill, VT can't.

I respect your basketball coaching acumen but college sports is rapidly moving from an athletic pursuit to a business, and if you have free resources that seems as good a use as any. Texas A&M just spent $25M on NIL for player payments, we can't even spend $5M on actual recruiting costs.

[Post edited by soflahokie at 03/22/2022 3:32PM]

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Posted: 03/22/2022 at 3:29PM

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With NIL money, could a team make a starter a walk-on but pay them well? -- HokieAl 03/22/2022 1:03PM

From what I heard on ESPN U, this is what BYU is doing...all Walk-ons get -- HoakieBS 03/23/2022 10:43AM

This is possible in very very unique situations -- MVIII 03/22/2022 2:57PM

This has been brought up many times in varying contexts... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 1:50PM

Great point as usual. Thank you for the input. Never thought about it that -- SCHokie1103 03/22/2022 3:03PM

There are absolutely teams that could do that if they wanted to -- soflahokie 03/22/2022 2:22PM

I know you specifically havent been a part of other discussions... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 2:31PM

It’s impossible to keep 8 guys happy with playing time -- VermontDDS 03/22/2022 5:21PM

And NIL, minus scholarship, equals scholarship, if enough -- TomTurkey 03/22/2022 4:15PM

Yes I get that, I was proposing an alternative approach to roster creation -- soflahokie 03/22/2022 3:29PM

Its very much true in the current landscape... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 4:06PM

Completely agree that it doesn't make sense for football, too many players -- soflahokie 03/23/2022 12:45PM

The 86th player at Alabama could be an NFL player! ** -- MVIII 03/22/2022 4:58PM

No, they average 10 draft picks per year -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 5:34PM

Could be. Plenty of their 20th kids per class pan out. ** -- MVIII 03/22/2022 8:13PM

And half of their class every year doesnt ** -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 8:14PM

Before 1973 didn't Bear Bryant stock up on blue chippers just to be on the -- HokieBrazil 03/22/2022 2:48PM

All the larger schools tried to, including Claiborne at Tech. ** -- billyboy 03/22/2022 8:23PM

Claiborne was gone after the 1970 season. ** -- The Big Cat 03/22/2022 9:41PM

Watched blue bloods in 60's on TV. Blue chip players 30-30. -- TomTurkey 03/22/2022 5:15PM

Pretty sure he did and most blue blood powerhouse programs because limits -- SCHokie1103 03/22/2022 3:05PM

That's why there is an 85-man limit and 13 for basketball. -- MVIII 03/22/2022 3:01PM

Agree for this. If a coach had the opportunity to add a superstart 14th -- atlhokie1 03/22/2022 2:42PM

If coach k has room for his grandson and -- GreenvilleVT 03/22/2022 5:51PM

Makes good sense to me but I wonder sometimes if the NIL rules and protocol -- SCHokie1103 03/22/2022 3:18PM

No, thats correct ** -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 3:02PM

Responses to you two main questions -- HokieAl 03/22/2022 2:11PM

I know we romanticize athletes' love for the university we love... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 2:22PM

Is that something you know is going on with Aluma for next season or just -- SCHokie1103 03/22/2022 3:20PM

Just making a point -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 3:55PM

What’s going on overseas with hoops and Covid? -- GreenvilleVT 03/22/2022 5:49PM

Cool. Makes sense. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/22/2022 4:12PM

I don't think anyone knows yet. We will find out soon. -- MVIII 03/22/2022 3:04PM

I dont know whether the sun will come up tomorrow... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 3:06PM

In your scenario there is no reason for a limit. Why is there a limit? -- MVIII 03/22/2022 3:11PM

A limit to what? Funds? -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 3:52PM

Scholarship Limits. -- MVIII 03/22/2022 4:01PM

Mike Young couldnt find the time to play the 11 players he has... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 4:10PM

Question - I wondered why CMY didn't bring in more walkons -- Scream_On_D 03/22/2022 8:55PM

I understand, the question is does CMY tell Jalen Haynes to leave? -- MVIII 03/22/2022 4:55PM

You absolutely tell Haynes to leave -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 5:12PM

No truth to the rumor that Haynes already left? He wasn't on bench for ACC ** -- chagerma 03/23/2022 10:52AM

Wanted to stay out of this fray, but a major correction here......NIL money -- VTScoop 03/22/2022 3:24PM

Semantics. It’s coming from the same source. And -- Colonel Jessup 03/22/2022 3:30PM

Not sure I agree with that.....it may be coming from a few blended sources, -- VTScoop 03/22/2022 4:15PM

For donor benefits I wasn’t suggesting -- Colonel Jessup 03/22/2022 4:30PM

Any chance NIL ultimately drives dollars away from staff salaries and -- Femoyer Hokie 03/22/2022 4:21PM

One would think. The players will get cash instead of a lazy river. ** -- MVIII 03/22/2022 4:59PM

And a multi million $ coach. ** -- Femoyer Hokie 03/22/2022 5:01PM

That would be the best thing to come from it... ** -- NokieHokie 03/22/2022 4:45PM

Not sure what I think will happen long term.....as I think anything new -- VTScoop 03/22/2022 4:42PM

Hope everything declines ** -- CrystalCoveHokie 03/22/2022 4:25PM

I just meant the booster money can go straight to the school or NIL. -- MVIII 03/22/2022 3:27PM

But you are only looking at one scenario -- HokieAl 03/22/2022 2:52PM

Im looking at all scenarios... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 3:04PM

Hope you were not frustrated by this -- HokieAl 03/22/2022 3:23PM

Not at all...I appreciate the discussion -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 4:00PM

Seriously? -- MVIII 03/22/2022 3:22PM

Possible and plausible are two different things... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 3:56PM

This is plausible, not possible. -- MVIII 03/22/2022 4:05PM

Youre giving teams a discount to compete with you... -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 4:14PM

He is worth more to VT because he is here and a known commodity. -- MVIII 03/22/2022 5:01PM

That doesnt make any sense ** -- GCHokie34 03/22/2022 5:34PM

Of course. I'm sure you'll see that in SEC land. ** -- EDGEMAN 03/22/2022 1:39PM

Pretty sure roster size is limited, so that wouldn't really help. ** -- reestuart 03/22/2022 1:35PM

Roster size is 15, 13 can dress -- MVIII 03/22/2022 3:07PM

May be a rare time / place where that could work but in general i doubt the -- ME Hokie 07 03/22/2022 1:34PM

Is there a limit to years a walk-on can play? Could NIL fund a walk-on -- Hokie622 03/22/2022 1:32PM

All players have 5 years to play 4 (COVID is exception) -- HokieJack 03/22/2022 1:37PM

Easy answer...thanks ** -- Hokie622 03/22/2022 3:13PM

Yes I get that, I was proposing an alternative approach to roster creation

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