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Assuming WVU became the 15th team, then limiting the protected games

to only 2 make not work because there should be enough members who will want to protect 3 games to kill the vote. Here is a list of those potential schools. Keep in mind the info is based on various sources that have indicated the school's opinion on what is or isn't a rivalry. If the ACC is going to go down this road, then it should treat each school's opinion with the same level of respect. Otherwise, you risk offending members and creating crack in a foundation that may already be fragile.

Clemson: FSU, GT, and NC State (Textile Bowl)
UNC: Duke, NC State, and UVA
Duke: UNC, Wake, and UVA
UVA: Duke, UNC, and VT
VT: UVA, Miami, and WVU Note: VT-L'ville could be a potential rivalry because most older VT fans remember how L'ville treated VT when both were a member of the Metro Conference.
WVU: Pitt, VT, and Syracuse (Ben Schwartzwalder Trophy) Note: WVU-UVA could a rivalry given that the UVA Pep Band made fun of WVU during the halftime show of the 2002 Continental Tire Bowl.
NC State: UNC, Wake, and Clemson
Wake: Duke, NC State, and UNC

Some else to consider is that a school may see this as an opportunity to rekindle a rivalry. For example, Miami may want to renew its rivalry with BC and Syracuse as well as keep its rivalry with FSU and maybe even VT. Even FSU and UVA have a secondary rivalry where the winner of the game receives the Jefferson-Eppes Trophy. BC and Clemson play for a trophy (O'Rourke–McFadden Trophy) and I believe both schools consider it to be a secondary rivalry. I guess it is possible that Clemson could say it would rather continue its "rivalry" with BC instead of its "rivalry" with FSU which really didn't develop until both schools had a Bowden for its HC. It is possible that GT may want to continue its rivalries with Clemson and VT which could become problematic for VT if it already has its 3 protected games. At some point something will have to give and every school may not end up with its Top 3 choices or even Top 2 choices. Then again, it has already been established that it isn't possible for 15 schools to have 3 protected games because the math doesn't work out in the end.

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Posted: 02/11/2022 at 02:31AM

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The rivalries matter to the schools and their fans though -- VTHokie2000 02/10/2022 12:02PM

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14 is actually a good number -- obguthr 02/10/2022 8:24PM

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To be honest -- Millpoint 02/11/2022 10:22AM

I wouldn't assume that WVU would get stuck with L'ville -- VTHokie2000 02/12/2022 06:22AM

NC State is probably another that needs 3 (UNC, Wake, Clemson) -- VTHokie2000 02/10/2022 1:58PM

Gawd, HOKIES getting into the weeds AGAIN -- Mercury 02/10/2022 09:31AM

UVa needs to keep playing UNC. -- Maroon Baboon 02/10/2022 1:19PM

As long as VT gets to maintain that heated rivalry with BC** -- Millpoint 02/09/2022 7:30PM

That's who we are going to get stuck with in that plan. ** -- EDGEMAN 02/09/2022 9:59PM

The only way the ACC will ever let VT get a divorce from BC -- VTHokie2000 02/09/2022 10:32PM

That's why we don't need "permanent rival" games! -- EDGEMAN 02/09/2022 10:46PM

This x 1000 ** -- hokie4ever 02/10/2022 1:25PM

I suspect you (and VT) would be in the minority on that issue -- VTHokie2000 02/10/2022 01:55AM

BC should play Syracuse, Miami, and Pitt each year. Not VT. -- Maroon Baboon 02/10/2022 12:04AM

Oh don't worry the ACC will make sure that VT ends up with BC, Syracuse, -- VTHokie2000 02/09/2022 7:32PM

This makes so much sense for the ACC -- Millpoint 02/09/2022 1:31PM

That's not necessarily an "always" -- Pylons 02/10/2022 10:45AM

Then choose two best teams by CFP rankings -- Millpoint 02/10/2022 8:42PM

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I can't really see a way that it hurts ** -- Pylons 02/10/2022 11:15AM

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You brought up the perception of helping or hurting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ** -- Pylons 02/10/2022 12:05PM

And if you re-read my post then you will I'm not talking about the concept -- VTHokie2000 02/10/2022 12:19PM

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I’d have to think the New Big 12 will do this as well -- Millpoint 02/09/2022 8:21PM

I noticed you left out BYU. How do they fit into your equation? ** -- VTHokie2000 02/09/2022 8:23PM

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As crazy as this sounds -- Millpoint 02/09/2022 8:15PM

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Can't come soon enough! ** -- EDGEMAN 02/09/2022 1:23PM

Assuming WVU became the 15th team, then limiting the protected games

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