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Very Easy. This chart demonstrates part of it.

Louisville has a larger athletic budget, does better in most of the sports than, and has dramatically better facilities than both Maryland and Rutgers. The comparison is not even close. The ACC got a very competitive athletic department that is rich with funds, funds before having to depend on any conference television rights, and an athletic department growing rapidly into an athletic power.

The ACC lost an athletic department that is a financial basket case, is downsizing, with decrepit facilities (Wallace Loh's description), and is seen as a complete afterthought in its own town.

The ACC failed to add one of the worst athletic departments in the United States in Rutgers.

The Big XII made a colossal mistake in it's decision making not taking Louisville. Just about anyone from the Big XII will tell you that.

The Big Ten was looking for cable boxes and not athletic contribution. They got the cable boxes along with terrible athletic contributions that will drag down their product over time. This is especially true with Rutgers. Maryland will contribute some stuff.

Louisville uplifts the ACC's product by comparison. Yes I'm pro ACC, and the ACC has replaced anything lost by Maryland and more. I didn't want to kick Maryland out, but we got an upgrade from a College Athletics perspective.

Did we downgrade academically? We lost the number 11 ranked academic institution in the ACC at the time and replaced with number 15. Meh? Splitting hairs.
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So ACC apologists, how does VT get competitive media rights dollars? -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 01:31AM

You have evloved into the same schtick as the WVU dude. Pro WVU, pro Big 12 -- Stech 04/20/2016 12:45PM

Until Swoffard says something useful, instead -- hokie4ever 04/20/2016 4:56PM

Negotiation 101...say nothing until the deal is done. ** -- Stech 04/20/2016 5:51PM

Dulaney knows how to use the media and fans for their benefit. ** -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 9:03PM

Delaney has done all of this w/o announcing anything until deal was done. -- Stech 04/21/2016 07:15AM

Swofford screwed up the 1st expansion because of his own stupidity. -- Atlee Hokie 04/21/2016 3:23PM

Negotation 301 through 601---- Use various techniques- -- KnoxHokie 04/20/2016 7:58PM

Okay this is getting old...I need a break. You guys spread your doom and -- Stech 04/20/2016 8:12PM

Not spreading gloom and doom - just recognizing what exists- -- KnoxHokie 04/20/2016 8:37PM

History has shown that Swofford is not a leader in this area... -- tcc_dc 04/20/2016 7:08PM

You really think Maryland sports are stronger than Louisville in the big 3? -- Stech 04/20/2016 7:11PM

Maryland provides fellow league members more money and exposure. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 9:05PM

Maryland provides a football stadium for Penn State fans to take over. -- HOO86 04/21/2016 11:44AM

I respect what you bring to the board, but you are 100% wrong .. -- tcc_dc 04/21/2016 1:09PM

UVA, VT have never been the lead in DC. But we are covered. -- HOO86 04/21/2016 2:32PM

Plus Ravens and Orioles, too. ** -- BowlingHokie 04/24/2016 10:12AM

Compare WaPo Coverage of UVA/VT since the MD Move -- VTHOKIE21020 04/21/2016 2:59PM

UVA fans have never liked coverage in WaPost for 35 years. -- HOO86 04/21/2016 3:17PM

Better school and not even close...State school, not a city school ** -- tcc_dc 04/20/2016 7:24PM

Bingo! ** -- Calamitous 04/20/2016 8:13PM

Maryland is very urban and I noticed you didn't answer the sports question. ** -- Stech 04/20/2016 8:09PM

Historically...Louisville better but not by much in basketball, Football is -- tcc_dc 04/20/2016 8:48PM

Depending on what our angle is.... -- Calamitous 04/20/2016 11:27PM

Louisville actually carries the Louisville market. -- HOO86 04/21/2016 4:43PM

Have you ever been to a game in CP? -- Red Hokie 04/20/2016 9:31PM

Been to many games there, and what you say is true. -- tcc_dc 04/21/2016 10:33AM

Yeah, it's not even in the same ballpark. ** -- reestuart 04/21/2016 12:27PM

True. Louisville has much higher Athletic Revenue, TV ratings, facilities, -- HOO86 04/21/2016 4:31PM

Much higher? For how long? Ignoring they are a better school -- reestuart 04/21/2016 8:49PM

MD isn't lapping Georgetown. It's in a market that doesn't know it's there. ** -- HOO86 04/22/2016 3:27PM

I'm talking money. ** -- reestuart 04/22/2016 6:59PM

How do you explain UL's Place in Conf Realignment? -- VTHOKIE21020 04/21/2016 6:32PM

Very Easy. This chart demonstrates part of it. -- HOO86 04/22/2016 3:24PM

MD is ranked in the 50s while UL is in the 160s. Yeah, splitting -- reestuart 04/22/2016 7:58PM

Here's some more data. -- HOO86 04/22/2016 3:51PM

To summarize...here are schools picked ahead of -- reestuart 04/21/2016 9:58PM

Not better for anything that the ACC needs. ** -- HOO86 04/20/2016 8:05PM

That's meaningless to the conversation. ** -- reestuart 04/20/2016 7:15PM

How about adding attendance and TV ratings to his question? ** -- HOO86 04/20/2016 7:28PM

If Oklahoma is watching it closely and thinking about leaving.... -- VTBB 04/20/2016 3:46PM

Legit points. I don't think the ACC schools are in the dark re: media -- daveinop 04/21/2016 09:54AM

Actions speak louder than words...if they wanted to jump, they would have -- Stech 04/20/2016 5:55PM

We pissed that opportunity away by -- 133193Hokie 04/20/2016 5:23PM

So why did FSU and Clemson sign the GOR? The Big 12 wanted them. How about -- Stech 04/20/2016 7:15PM

FSU / Clem - beacuse their only option was the -- 133193Hokie 04/21/2016 12:06AM

I'm sure they wanted to keep the ACC intact at that time...and probably -- VTBB 04/20/2016 7:32PM

I'm with you all the way with this. ** -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 9:37PM

Nope. I'm pro VT. ACC hasn't been all that good to VT, not that they tried. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 5:13PM

There are also still many details that need to be filled in. -- crabcake77 04/20/2016 2:24PM

No way they're fudging a quarter billion dollars. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 3:09PM

My answer -- Tailgate Guru 04/20/2016 01:45AM

Not a lot of precedent when it comes to booting. Texas and OU aint coming. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 03:11AM

It isn't that simple -- daveinop 04/20/2016 09:45AM

Get that. Lawyers will get paid here. That didn't prevent Maryland's move. ** -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 11:46AM

It didn't. Maryland wanted out. Maryland is paying -- daveinop 04/20/2016 12:01PM

And now they have more than enough cash to pay everyone they need. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 2:58PM

Double post** -- daveinop 04/20/2016 12:02PM

And Maryland's nearly already paid for the move. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 12:04PM

6 ** -- daveinop 04/20/2016 10:24PM

ESPN isn't required to do much of anything. They own ACC for a LONG time. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 11:38AM

Fortunately for board traffic, we don't have the ACC media contract. We do -- daveinop 04/20/2016 11:54AM

Double post** -- daveinop 04/20/2016 11:55AM

The Pac12 has a network. I'm sure someone will eventually buy it -- Red Hokie 04/20/2016 10:48AM

I'm just saying the PAC 12 will have to -- daveinop 04/20/2016 11:26AM

True. Did not mean to imply those scenarios were realistic. -- Tailgate Guru 04/20/2016 09:27AM

With ND getting in bed with the Big-10 (in hockey), don't expect... -- EDGEMAN 04/20/2016 09:02AM

Don't think ND wants to be the Midwestern Catholic School. -- HOO86 04/20/2016 1:45PM

ND will have zippo problem scheduling East Coast teams. ** -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 3:11PM

How many when they play 9 B1G games, USC,Navy, and Stanford? ** -- HOO86 04/20/2016 4:56PM

If they get placed in the East, which I'm sure is about the only way -- reestuart 04/20/2016 5:08PM

Then how do you get access to the Georgia/Florida/Texas recruiting hotbeds? -- HOO86 04/20/2016 6:19PM

Assuming Notre Dame did join the Big Ten and the Big Ten expanded -- VTHokie2000 04/20/2016 5:24PM

ND wants both Sanford & USC every year. -- Atlee Hokie 04/22/2016 06:45AM

According to goldendomer, it sounds like Navy and USC -- VTHokie2000 04/22/2016 8:03PM

I could see ND-Navy being played in San Diego when not at ND. ** -- reestuart 04/22/2016 10:36PM

I do agree that the Navy-Notre Dame could be played in San Diego -- VTHokie2000 04/23/2016 12:21PM

Do you honestly think those schools you put in B1G west would allow that? -- HOO86 04/20/2016 7:25PM

The Big Ten already laid the foundation when it -- VTHokie2000 04/20/2016 8:03PM

They aren't going to double down on that by adding all the power East. -- HOO86 04/20/2016 8:09PM

The Big Ten is not going to revert back to its version -- VTHokie2000 04/20/2016 8:36PM

Let them happen consistently with second place East not able to go. -- HOO86 04/20/2016 8:40PM

Umm go where? -- VTHokie2000 04/20/2016 9:01PM

Yeah, they'd play Rutgers in the Meadowlands. MD would play at MD -- reestuart 04/20/2016 5:59PM

The Navy-Notre Dame football game has been played in -- VTHokie2000 04/20/2016 8:18PM

Exposure is best doing what ND is doing or joining the ACC by a long shot. -- HOO86 04/20/2016 7:03PM

In any conference, they would struggle in such a way. ** -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 5:16PM

Agreed. The relationship between the two is better than ever. -- chuckd4vt 04/20/2016 11:42AM

. ** -- seekoHoG 04/20/2016 11:39AM

Edgeman, I think you are totally correct in your thoughts re ND. -- hokie4ever 04/20/2016 10:39AM

At some point the gap is so big you can't ignore it -- goldendomer 04/20/2016 11:38AM

Re: At some point the gap is so big you can't ignore it -- PaNDalum 04/20/2016 7:05PM

I have despised the Big Ten for over 50 years -- TerryD 04/21/2016 11:52AM

Yeah, this deal for the Big Ten is bigger than what some conferences get -- reestuart 04/20/2016 12:06PM

Very Easy. This chart demonstrates part of it.

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