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Wow...I just got a flashback from 13 years ago during ACC Expansion

I remember when a blow hard who I think called himself Doc Ryan, a UNC version of the Dud from WV, was vehemently against our inclusion into the ACC because we did not deliver any Q rating and that our home market of Roanoke/Lynchburg/Blacksburg was meaningless.

He of course is WRONG.

College sports, especially with schools that fly a state university flag, really carry an entire state or region, not just one particular TV market.

We all know that the Hokies are the key player not just in Roanoke but also Richmond, Hampton Roads, Washington, and Bristol/Kingsport/Johnson City.

Boston College suffers for ratings because Boston is a pro town. Period. Boston thinks of the Sox first, then the Pats, then the Celtics and Bruins...and then maybe they think a little about BC. Also remember that BC is far from State U.

That being said, BC gives the ACC a home market in Boston and all of Massachusetts. That brings high dollar subs for a network.

Ratings and markets are indeed important but quality on the field trumps market in college sports. Ask the SEC. Their largest markets are Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta. If I recall, Texas A&M is in College Station, yet Dallas is an SEC market. UGA is in Athens, which is an hour from Atlanta, yet it is the home market in Atlanta, Macon, Valdosta, and Augusta. State U...works in Texas, Georgia, and Virginia.

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Posted: 08/17/2016 at 09:19AM

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Have those bowing down to TV markets forgotten what BC and VT taught us? -- chuckd4vt 08/17/2016 02:10AM

Why do you as a Hokie care so much about WVU? ** -- Stech 08/18/2016 12:23PM

Because WVU is a rival and most fans find rivalry games more appealing -- VTHokie2000 08/19/2016 10:20AM

USA is a rival. WVU was a school VT played a lot. ** -- marcbvtgm 08/19/2016 4:37PM

For someone who claims that WVU isn't a rival, your distest for the -- VTHokie2000 08/19/2016 5:11PM

Great thought...if you think Roanoke is considered the sole VT market. ** -- marcbvtgm 08/18/2016 08:14AM

And Morgantown isn't the only WVU market. ** -- chuckd4vt 08/18/2016 10:22AM

Yes but the entire state of WV is a small, aging, low $$, shrinking market** -- marcbvtgm 08/18/2016 1:12PM

Except that the WVU "market" also includes western MD, DMV, western -- VTHokie2000 08/18/2016 2:18PM

Oh please. WVU is a secondary player at best in those markets -- marcbvtgm 08/19/2016 4:47PM

It depends on your definition of deliver. -- HOO86 08/17/2016 10:06AM

And we have 4 schools in NC to deliver that "NC cable market" -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:29AM

Do think think there would be 4 NC schools if there was a clean slate? ** -- marcbvtgm 08/18/2016 1:15PM

Given the ACC's current leadership, I do think it would still want -- VTHokie2000 08/18/2016 1:47PM

I have no idea what you're talking about. The answer is NO. ** -- marcbvtgm 08/19/2016 4:49PM

We do. ** -- HOO86 08/18/2016 10:35AM

I suspect BC will "deliver" more than just MA for the ACC -- VTHokie2000 08/17/2016 12:23PM

Doesn't Miami have more fans in the northeast -- DKM 08/17/2016 8:18PM

I know there are more FSU fans in Dade County than UM fans. -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:31AM

I'd bet there are more BC fans in New England -- Old Line Hokie 08/18/2016 09:29AM

I believe Miami has a strong following in the NYC metro area -- VTHokie2000 08/17/2016 9:42PM

Not really. I'll bet there are more ND fans in NYC than UM fans ** -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:32AM

I don't doubt that ND has more fans in NYC than Da U. -- VTHokie2000 08/18/2016 10:48AM

It the ACCN shows BC hockey games, it will give it coverage in New England. ** -- HOO86 08/17/2016 3:25PM

I don't think the ACCN can televise BC hockey games because the ACC -- VTHokie2000 08/17/2016 3:45PM

How about some ND hockey games? -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:33AM

All home ND hockey games are on NBC Sports -- TerryD 08/18/2016 3:58PM

Not in the Big Ten. When they were in Hockey East, sure. ** -- HOO86 08/18/2016 10:37AM

Actually if ND is getting a full share of the network, they should provide -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:35AM

Can't be on the ACC Network -- TerryD 08/18/2016 4:00PM

Even if Notre Dame wanted to televise hockey games on the ACCN -- VTHokie2000 08/18/2016 12:40PM

ACC should try to make some arrangement with Hockey East. -- HOO86 08/18/2016 5:50PM

I wish ND had stayed in Hockey East -- TerryD 08/18/2016 6:17PM

From an ACC perspective, me too. -- HOO86 08/19/2016 01:37AM

Home games still on NBC Sports network ** -- TerryD 08/18/2016 4:00PM

Those don't show all of the games. -- HOO86 08/17/2016 4:41PM

BC may not be the issue. The issue may be with Hockey East -- VTHokie2000 08/17/2016 4:51PM

It would have to be negotiated, but not impossible. -- HOO86 08/17/2016 5:07PM

I do agree there will be some demand for the ACCN in New England -- VTHokie2000 08/17/2016 5:23PM

Regional Rivalries sell tickets and draw viewers. -- HOO86 08/17/2016 6:11PM

And more fans will attend a Pitt-WVU or VT-WVU game -- VTHokie2000 08/17/2016 9:38PM

Pretty clear VT needs to add at least 3K seats -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:34AM

Why settle for #3? Why not start saving up money so Lane could -- VTHokie2000 08/18/2016 11:09AM

Attendance -- Tailgate Guru 08/18/2016 09:20AM

I don't disagree that WVU's attendance would be much higher. -- VTHokie2000 08/18/2016 10:13AM

It seems though that as the cable market diminishes and streaming -- IB4TECH 08/17/2016 12:10PM

Depends on the Streaming service. -- HOO86 08/17/2016 3:30PM

Well that is interesting. Thanks for yours & Dave's answer.** -- IB4TECH 08/17/2016 6:34PM

As a novice in this area, my perception is that as long as there is a -- daveinop 08/17/2016 1:59PM

Streaming services bill by zip code and assign rates per market. -- HOO86 08/17/2016 3:32PM

Wow...I just got a flashback from 13 years ago during ACC Expansion -- CobbCountyHokie 08/17/2016 09:19AM

Have told this story before -- Alpharetta Hokie 08/17/2016 9:33PM

Doc Ryan. Yes, talk about a flashback -- Hokiepac 08/17/2016 6:44PM

There was a lot on animosity towards VT from UNC -- BigCrumpy 08/17/2016 11:30AM

It was because we "stole" their football coach -- EDGEMAN 08/18/2016 10:39AM

That's not how it works -- Mercury 08/17/2016 04:05AM

What you call "niche" teams, I'll call good teams. -- chuckd4vt 08/18/2016 01:57AM

People on this board who work in the industry... -- 2hhoop3 08/17/2016 08:50AM

Wow...I just got a flashback from 13 years ago during ACC Expansion

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