When I went through water survival there, while in AOCS 10/85-01/86, there

was this little wirey guy, an E-5, working over at the pool deck that was waiting to hear about a BUDS class date. He also worked with us on the obstacle course and cross-country course (I was fastest at both in my class 😎👍🏻). I never heard if he made it, but I was always grateful to him for working with me because I was weak in the water, and I wouldn’t haven’t gotten through the drown proofing without his help and encouragement. Most of the guys that worked with the AOCS classes were great, but I wasn’t surprised where guys working the Aircrew classes could get power crazy leading to hazing and bullying. I’ve seen similar in flight instructors and also some of weakest Capts I’ve flown with have demonstrated similar character flaws.

BTW - listening to Shipley talk is awesome. I love guys like him.

My friend and favorite Navy SEAL served as an officer in the 70s to early 80s. Here we are at a Giants game last yr. 😎👍🏻 (I’m the guy on the left 😉)

[Post edited by B777Fr8Dog at 02/20/2019 10:28AM]

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Posted: 02/20/2019 at 10:14AM

Interesting story from fmr SEAL Don Shipley -- HokieDan95 02/20/2019 08:43AM

Not surprised there are people like that out there... -- EDGEMAN 02/20/2019 09:47AM

I remember when that kid died in the pool. 😢 ** -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 09:47AM

Washington Post -- HokieDan95 02/20/2019 4:08PM

I was nursing a sore chest the weekend that article came out. I was winged -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 4:53PM

I had assumed that all special units were more than happy to let you walk -- HokieDan95 02/20/2019 5:21PM

Yep, in AOCS,if someone DOR’d, and we had plenty in my class(started with -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 5:43PM

If you think that's crazy, we had a guy DOR after his first haircut -- EDGEMAN 02/21/2019 09:21AM

Funny, one of my best friends now was an ODU guy in my class, also had the -- B777Fr8Dog 02/21/2019 2:39PM

28-84, Gunny Hawks Don't remember my recruiter's name. -- EDGEMAN 02/21/2019 3:00PM

Me too. -- EDGEMAN 02/20/2019 09:48AM

When I went through water survival there, while in AOCS 10/85-01/86, there -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 10:14AM

I think I read about the death in the Navy Times. -- EDGEMAN 02/20/2019 12:40PM

I think I met his daughter once in back in VB before my Navy days, I think -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 4:47PM

My understanding is UDT is generally considered a valid SEAL** -- HokieDan95 02/22/2019 09:51AM

Wow, thanks for posting this -- HortHokie 02/20/2019 09:42AM

Looking back I'm unclear on the guy's Trident status -- HokieDan95 02/20/2019 09:53AM

Never earned it. -- EDGEMAN 02/20/2019 12:56PM

Would be the equivalent of me completing Aviation Officer Candidate School -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 10:25AM

So he got himself a fake trident or stole one? ** -- HokieDan95 02/20/2019 11:51AM

Nope, you can go to your nearest NEX and buy a Trident -- EDGEMAN 02/20/2019 1:03PM

My dad enlisted in the US Navy just before turning 17. He had left home, in -- B777Fr8Dog 02/20/2019 12:08PM

Seemed all fake since the -- HortHokie 02/20/2019 10:06AM

When I went through water survival there, while in AOCS 10/85-01/86, there

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