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Fox gets Texas Tier 1 content and ESPN keeps tier 3.

Both get to show games from one of the premier programs in the country, maybe THE premier program. WDBJ7 in Roanoke would offer some money to show Texas games. It's pretty dang simple really. it's pretty much the same set up that's in place now. A different network owns different aspects of Texas' content. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Anyhow, Fox pays Texas for Tier 1 and ESPN pays them for Tier 3, And while ESPN would like to pay them less, ESPN is locked into doing so. Quite irrelevant to what happens with Texas' premier football and basketball games. Though I do not doubt ESPN would like to own those too.

None of this would change if Texas went to the B1G, Pac12, or MWC. ESPN keeps the programming it's already signed on to show and the rest of Texas' inventory would be shopped around for a home. And plenty of entities would pay to show Texas' premier football and basketball games. ESPN does not currently own those and there's no obligation on Texas' part to place them there. Texas has a contractual obligation to show their third tier home games on ESPN. That is it. The rest may go to ESPN, it may not.

I look around and I see Alabama games on CBS, ESPN, and the SECNetwork. Then I see B1G games split across multiple networks too. In fact, they just cut deals with two opposing networks. The entire Big12 is currently on a number of networks, including their own networks. ACC games are on ESPN channels and Raycom. Some ACC games used to be shown on CBSSports net too. There's plenty of precedent for schools and their leagues being shown on multiple networks. It's actually the norm. So again, please don't misinform the board with assertions that Texas is stuck with ESPN for all it's programming. That isn't the case now and there's little reason that will have to be the case in the future.

[Post edited by chuckd4vt at 10/02/2016 2:33PM]

(In response to this post by daveinop)

Posted: 10/02/2016 at 2:33PM

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Anyone think Texas and ACC are talking right now? ** -- VT ChemE 1986 09/29/2016 6:31PM

Spent few hrs sitting next to big time Tx alum $ giver -- HOKIEGOBBLE 09/30/2016 7:55PM

I'll add one more very important point -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 12:22PM

But Texas in ACC = death of B12 -- BigCrumpy 09/30/2016 3:16PM

ITs always about timing: Think strategically not tactically -- Mercury 09/30/2016 3:26PM

IF they are talking to other conferences -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 12:07PM

IMO Texas has always had a Pac whatever bias -- BigCrumpy 09/30/2016 3:19PM

Could you provide one factual reason to leads you to this belief? ** -- marcbvtgm 10/02/2016 7:02PM

It doesn't show up in the record. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 4:45PM

I think Texas has 2 options and neither of them are spelled SEC -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 09:22AM

Texas will take the best offer.. -- Old Line Hokie 09/30/2016 3:18PM

If the SEC ended up looking like this -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 3:56PM

TCU won WAC and MWC that much with very few watching. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 3:43PM

There's a simple solution. Keep the LHN for Texas home games... -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 11:30AM

I am not a Liberty Law Grad...but I'll respond -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 12:17PM

ESPN could keep it as an ACC Network for Texas -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:01PM

If the LHN goes down in flames, then Texas will just use "Remember the LHN" -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 1:57PM

Agreed. LHN owns tier 3 home games, everything else is up for grabs. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 1:32PM

Would BTN feel the same about losing conference games -- daveinop 09/30/2016 9:15PM

Trade off for Texas' tier 1 content would be WELL worth it. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 4:52PM

IIRC, you said all the Big 12 had to do to expand was make a couple calls. ** -- daveinop 10/02/2016 09:27AM

Pretty much. YOu think it would take much more for ECU or Cinncy? -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 5:53PM

Re: Agreed. LHN owns tier 3 home games, everything else is up for grabs. -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 1:52PM

Because it wants to increase the number of Cali students attend -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 2:08PM

Texas already schedules Cali games. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:12PM

Who does Texas routinely schedule on the east coast? -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 2:19PM

Right now it's West Virginia. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:53PM

By going to the Pac-16, Texas ensures itself that it will be top dog -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 3:00PM

Texas A&M then becomes top dog in Texas. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 3:05PM

UT will be top dog in Texas no matter what P4(5) conference they join -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 5:38PM

Texas goes to PAC12, then SEC dominates the state. -- HOO86 10/01/2016 12:01PM

I would not assume that Texas remains the top dog in the state -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 3:46PM

ACC or B1G put it on even footing with Texas A&M in SEC. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 3:57PM

Disagree. During football season TAMU has more opportunities -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 4:12PM

I was talking about all sports, not just football ** -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 2:14PM

Same thing. Schedule Cali games. No Washington, Oregon, Colorado, etc. ** -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:16PM

There are some sports that it appears Texas will routinely schedule -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 2:53PM

They haven't been over the years. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:59PM

Texas may come to the ACC. Not as confident with Oklahoma. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 09:51AM

Just look who is being cryptic on expansion and following texas lead -- Mercury 09/30/2016 12:11PM

Texas opting for the ACC over the B1G seems highly unlikely... -- lawhokie 09/30/2016 11:02AM

No no no no -- Chicago Maroon 09/30/2016 12:34PM

Plus, no one else is likely to offer any concessions... -- Mr. Touchdown 10/03/2016 2:17PM

Spot on! ** -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 2:22PM

Rephrase Texas taking ACC over Pac 12 is unlikely ** -- BigCrumpy 09/30/2016 11:33AM

Yep, they aren't going west, & the SEC wants nothing to do w/ them... -- BROman Hokie 09/30/2016 12:10PM

Re: Texas opting for the ACC over the B1G seems highly unlikely... -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 11:05AM

Re: Texas may come to the ACC. Not as confident with Oklahoma. -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 10:01AM

Isn't happening. Buy a map. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 12:32AM

They would bring others, map solved, Fox has B1G and PAC, ESPN wants Texas -- Stech 09/30/2016 07:37AM

Not entirely accurate -- ren_hoek 09/30/2016 06:51AM

Everyone needs to read the post..very revealing on a key factor in CRA, -- Stech 09/30/2016 07:23AM

Texas football has games scheduled THIS YR on ABC, ESPN, LHN, FS1, and Fox. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 11:36AM

ABC, ESPN, and LHN are the same thing! Fox/FS1 -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 12:28PM

Exactly. Nothing forbidding Texas from doing business w/ Fox or anyone else -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 1:36PM

Apples/gumbo. ND required no workaround. -- daveinop 10/01/2016 09:12AM

You're right. Getting Texas' Tier 1 bball and fball games isn't worth it. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 5:47PM

Explain how ESPN and Fox both win and I'm on board. Otherwise... ** -- daveinop 10/02/2016 12:24PM

Fox gets Texas Tier 1 content and ESPN keeps tier 3. -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 2:33PM

"please don't misinform the board" said the guy who said...lol -- daveinop 10/02/2016 3:06PM

Thanks for making my point. Coll. TV rights are spread all over the place. -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 6:01PM

And ya know what seems to simplify negotiations? Dealing in Raycom. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 6:19PM

Texas can't do anything with Fox. The Big XII can. ** -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:03PM

Which means there's nothing forbidding the B1G from doing so as well. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 2:11PM

LHN contract is explicit -- HOO86 09/30/2016 12:05PM

That's a game changer if true. So Texas agreed to that? -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 1:38PM

It's only a game changer for you. -- daveinop 09/30/2016 9:26PM

Then explain why Texas is playing games on Fox and FS1 this season. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 4:40PM

The weakness in your scenario is that Texas "provides" no games...zero. -- daveinop 10/02/2016 12:37PM

Big12 TV contract hasn't stopped other teams from leaving. -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 8:06PM

No. But ESPN has rights to all broadcasts. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:07PM

Not true. Texas hosts TCU Nov. 25 on Fox/FS1. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 9:35PM

Texas can join a conference ONLY if -- daveinop 10/01/2016 08:57AM

Do you REALLY think Fox, the B1GN, or Pac12N would not want Texas content? -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 2:07PM

Of course they would. but the numbers have to work. ** -- daveinop 10/02/2016 2:44PM

The network issue is an important point. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 10:31AM

Re: Isn't happening. Buy a map. -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 06:16AM

PAC12 seems like a good spot for them. ** -- VT ChemE 1986 09/30/2016 12:55AM

Re: Anyone think Texas and ACC are talking right now? -- Stech 09/29/2016 11:03PM

About what? Any chance Texas joins? ** -- VT ChemE 1986 09/30/2016 12:53AM

Re: About what? Any chance Texas joins? -- Stech 09/30/2016 07:25AM

Re: About what? Any chance Texas joins? -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 06:26AM

I'm sure we would answer the phone, but still think.... -- EDGEMAN 09/29/2016 6:59PM

Not about UTex coming to ACC. ** -- seekoHoG 09/29/2016 7:00PM

Fox gets Texas Tier 1 content and ESPN keeps tier 3.

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