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I think Texas has 2 options and neither of them are spelled SEC

I have been one of the people here saying that Texas would ultimately become part of the ACC.

Here are my reasons:
- The LHN is an ESPN property with a 20 year contract. Everyone in the TV industry knows that the LHN has been a bad deal for everyone involved except for Texas. I still believe that ultimately ESPN will try to find a way to pull the plug on the network and finding UT a home in the ACC will be one way to do that.

- The SEC does not want Texas. Period. They don't need them and they do not expand their footprint in any way. Texas A&M is loving life without having to share a league with them. They are not going to the SEC.

- The B1G would be a potential home for Texas but their media rights are split between ESPN and Fox and the Big 10 Network is a Fox property. A move to the Big 10 means that the LHN will have to end painfully and that will not be a good thing for the folks in Austin or Bristol. I think the Big 10 is out, thanks to the LHN.

- The Pac 12 shares media rights with Fox, ESPN, and their self-owned Pac 12 network. The Pac 12 network has major distribution problems and cannot get on DirecTV. Also, the Pac 12 is on the west coast. A lot of Pac 12 games take place after a lot of people on the east coast go to sleep for the evening. If you are Texas, your goal is to maximize exposure nationally and not to get on TV sets after more than half of the country has gone to bed.

- They will bring others. This will not be a situation like WVU to the Big 12. I think Texas will bring some friends with them and the ACC will ultimately become a 20-team league. Scheduling will actually become easier in a 20-team league with teams playing 9 league games per year (4 versus your pod, 5 versus another pod) with a game against every league opponent every 3 years via rotating pods. My guess is that 4 schools will come from the Big 12 including Texas and Oklahoma. An 18-team league will feature only Texas and Oklahoma coming into the league...and yes, my numbers include Notre Dame for football.

So there you have it. This is nothing I have not been saying here for a long time. The ACC Network deal only makes this more likely to happen and 2019 sounds like a really good time to expand your conference footprint to maximize carriage deals.

(In response to this post by VT ChemE 1986)

Posted: 09/30/2016 at 09:22AM

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Anyone think Texas and ACC are talking right now? ** -- VT ChemE 1986 09/29/2016 6:31PM

Spent few hrs sitting next to big time Tx alum $ giver -- HOKIEGOBBLE 09/30/2016 7:55PM

I'll add one more very important point -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 12:22PM

But Texas in ACC = death of B12 -- BigCrumpy 09/30/2016 3:16PM

ITs always about timing: Think strategically not tactically -- Mercury 09/30/2016 3:26PM

IF they are talking to other conferences -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 12:07PM

IMO Texas has always had a Pac whatever bias -- BigCrumpy 09/30/2016 3:19PM

Could you provide one factual reason to leads you to this belief? ** -- marcbvtgm 10/02/2016 7:02PM

It doesn't show up in the record. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 4:45PM

I think Texas has 2 options and neither of them are spelled SEC -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 09:22AM

Texas will take the best offer.. -- Old Line Hokie 09/30/2016 3:18PM

If the SEC ended up looking like this -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 3:56PM

TCU won WAC and MWC that much with very few watching. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 3:43PM

There's a simple solution. Keep the LHN for Texas home games... -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 11:30AM

I am not a Liberty Law Grad...but I'll respond -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 12:17PM

ESPN could keep it as an ACC Network for Texas -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:01PM

If the LHN goes down in flames, then Texas will just use "Remember the LHN" -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 1:57PM

Agreed. LHN owns tier 3 home games, everything else is up for grabs. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 1:32PM

Would BTN feel the same about losing conference games -- daveinop 09/30/2016 9:15PM

Trade off for Texas' tier 1 content would be WELL worth it. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 4:52PM

IIRC, you said all the Big 12 had to do to expand was make a couple calls. ** -- daveinop 10/02/2016 09:27AM

Pretty much. YOu think it would take much more for ECU or Cinncy? -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 5:53PM

Re: Agreed. LHN owns tier 3 home games, everything else is up for grabs. -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 1:52PM

Because it wants to increase the number of Cali students attend -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 2:08PM

Texas already schedules Cali games. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:12PM

Who does Texas routinely schedule on the east coast? -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 2:19PM

Right now it's West Virginia. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:53PM

By going to the Pac-16, Texas ensures itself that it will be top dog -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 3:00PM

Texas A&M then becomes top dog in Texas. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 3:05PM

UT will be top dog in Texas no matter what P4(5) conference they join -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 5:38PM

Texas goes to PAC12, then SEC dominates the state. -- HOO86 10/01/2016 12:01PM

I would not assume that Texas remains the top dog in the state -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 3:46PM

ACC or B1G put it on even footing with Texas A&M in SEC. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 3:57PM

Disagree. During football season TAMU has more opportunities -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 4:12PM

I was talking about all sports, not just football ** -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 2:14PM

Same thing. Schedule Cali games. No Washington, Oregon, Colorado, etc. ** -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:16PM

There are some sports that it appears Texas will routinely schedule -- VTHokie2000 09/30/2016 2:53PM

They haven't been over the years. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:59PM

Texas may come to the ACC. Not as confident with Oklahoma. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 09:51AM

Just look who is being cryptic on expansion and following texas lead -- Mercury 09/30/2016 12:11PM

Texas opting for the ACC over the B1G seems highly unlikely... -- lawhokie 09/30/2016 11:02AM

No no no no -- Chicago Maroon 09/30/2016 12:34PM

Plus, no one else is likely to offer any concessions... -- Mr. Touchdown 10/03/2016 2:17PM

Spot on! ** -- Calamitous 09/30/2016 2:22PM

Rephrase Texas taking ACC over Pac 12 is unlikely ** -- BigCrumpy 09/30/2016 11:33AM

Yep, they aren't going west, & the SEC wants nothing to do w/ them... -- BROman Hokie 09/30/2016 12:10PM

Re: Texas opting for the ACC over the B1G seems highly unlikely... -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 11:05AM

Re: Texas may come to the ACC. Not as confident with Oklahoma. -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 10:01AM

Isn't happening. Buy a map. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 12:32AM

They would bring others, map solved, Fox has B1G and PAC, ESPN wants Texas -- Stech 09/30/2016 07:37AM

Not entirely accurate -- ren_hoek 09/30/2016 06:51AM

Everyone needs to read the post..very revealing on a key factor in CRA, -- Stech 09/30/2016 07:23AM

Texas football has games scheduled THIS YR on ABC, ESPN, LHN, FS1, and Fox. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 11:36AM

ABC, ESPN, and LHN are the same thing! Fox/FS1 -- CobbCountyHokie 09/30/2016 12:28PM

Exactly. Nothing forbidding Texas from doing business w/ Fox or anyone else -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 1:36PM

Apples/gumbo. ND required no workaround. -- daveinop 10/01/2016 09:12AM

You're right. Getting Texas' Tier 1 bball and fball games isn't worth it. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 5:47PM

Explain how ESPN and Fox both win and I'm on board. Otherwise... ** -- daveinop 10/02/2016 12:24PM

Fox gets Texas Tier 1 content and ESPN keeps tier 3. -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 2:33PM

"please don't misinform the board" said the guy who said...lol -- daveinop 10/02/2016 3:06PM

Thanks for making my point. Coll. TV rights are spread all over the place. -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 6:01PM

And ya know what seems to simplify negotiations? Dealing in Raycom. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 6:19PM

Texas can't do anything with Fox. The Big XII can. ** -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:03PM

Which means there's nothing forbidding the B1G from doing so as well. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 2:11PM

LHN contract is explicit -- HOO86 09/30/2016 12:05PM

That's a game changer if true. So Texas agreed to that? -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 1:38PM

It's only a game changer for you. -- daveinop 09/30/2016 9:26PM

Then explain why Texas is playing games on Fox and FS1 this season. -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 4:40PM

The weakness in your scenario is that Texas "provides" no games...zero. -- daveinop 10/02/2016 12:37PM

Big12 TV contract hasn't stopped other teams from leaving. -- chuckd4vt 10/02/2016 8:06PM

No. But ESPN has rights to all broadcasts. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 2:07PM

Not true. Texas hosts TCU Nov. 25 on Fox/FS1. -- chuckd4vt 09/30/2016 9:35PM

Texas can join a conference ONLY if -- daveinop 10/01/2016 08:57AM

Do you REALLY think Fox, the B1GN, or Pac12N would not want Texas content? -- chuckd4vt 10/01/2016 2:07PM

Of course they would. but the numbers have to work. ** -- daveinop 10/02/2016 2:44PM

The network issue is an important point. -- HOO86 09/30/2016 10:31AM

Re: Isn't happening. Buy a map. -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 06:16AM

PAC12 seems like a good spot for them. ** -- VT ChemE 1986 09/30/2016 12:55AM

Re: Anyone think Texas and ACC are talking right now? -- Stech 09/29/2016 11:03PM

About what? Any chance Texas joins? ** -- VT ChemE 1986 09/30/2016 12:53AM

Re: About what? Any chance Texas joins? -- Stech 09/30/2016 07:25AM

Re: About what? Any chance Texas joins? -- SoCloseHokie 09/30/2016 06:26AM

I'm sure we would answer the phone, but still think.... -- EDGEMAN 09/29/2016 6:59PM

Not about UTex coming to ACC. ** -- seekoHoG 09/29/2016 7:00PM

I think Texas has 2 options and neither of them are spelled SEC

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