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Vienna_Hokie

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My take...


People hate to feel like they can't do anything about an atrocity. We have reached this point in society where we feel that "they" or "the government" should be able to instantly right any wrong. For decades pols have told people, "vote for me and I'll take care of it" and now people are expecting government to take care of everything, and they can't.

Twitter and such are the worst because they are the ultimate "why aren't they" doing something about it platforms. Offer those that tweet this stuff a plane ticket for themselves or their family members to go over and fight, let's see how many walk away quietly.

The world is tired of never ending wars for other people. The part of NATO that matters (US, GB, Canada, France, Germany and Poland) have been engaged around the world for a generation in wars against Islamofacists. Body bags and young men and women without limbs and with scars that will never heal are a price that we are all tired of paying for someone else. I have a 20 year old son, I'm not willing to sacrifice him for this, I'm sure most feel that way. Totally different conversation if it were a direct threat to the US, but this isn't in any way.

Finally, the European nations have a legitimate concern that if they get engaged, Russia will attack them. It is now more frightening because it is obvious their conventional forces are no threat, but if Putin is the psycho madman the media makes him out to be, his last gasp if he were attacked by others could be nukes.

(In response to this post by HokieSignGuy)

Posted: 04/08/2022 at 09:45AM



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