141 still has mostly underclassmen (ACC), if Hillegas is going to be successful he's just going to have to get in there and mix it up with Sherman,Matthews, and Courtney because all of those guys will be around next year(2022) too. 165 is a little different. Wentzel, Bullard, and Monday will be done after this year and that weight will be wide open next year, a great opportunity to break in a freshman like Ulrey. I think Ulrey is going to struggle with guys who are 6yr. seniors.