Never let the facts get in the way of a good story ** -- HokieDevil 10/30/2017 10:17AM
If you really believe this, are you willing to change your diet? -- MrBayAreaHokie 10/30/2017 12:00AM
No, I like meat but even if you take out the beef cows you -- fordham 10/30/2017 10:34AM
That's it, I'm convinced. ** -- USN_Hokie 10/29/2017 7:45PM
Please see graphic -- which change was man's fault? -- DaveVT 10/29/2017 7:01PM
Please see graphic -- hoosnowahokie 10/30/2017 09:07AM
Re: Please see graphic -- DaveVT 10/31/2017 4:48PM
Randall is a very intelligent individual who has worked for NASA -- hoosnowahokie 11/01/2017 08:51AM
Dave who was recording the temps 500M years ago? -- Technocrat 10/30/2017 08:29AM
Core samples maaaaaan ** -- VaPoly07 10/30/2017 1:23PM
It was so easy !! This guy...... -- RaleighHokie15 10/30/2017 1:01PM
You can make a pretty educated guess by analyzing layers of sediment. -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 08:52AM
Got it but how can you tell atmospheric temps from rocks. ** -- Technocrat 10/30/2017 09:28AM
Ice cores are one of the primary methodologies... -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/30/2017 11:09AM
Thanks Freddy ** -- Technocrat 10/30/2017 1:12PM
Geologists and climatologists could tell you, but they have ways. -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 09:46AM
So like everything else it’s open to interpretation ** -- Technocrat 10/30/2017 10:54AM
And they have other proxies -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 10:54AM
That near-vertical spike at the end is a bit disconcerting. ** -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/30/2017 07:29AM
Not really. The bottom of that dip is the end of the last Ice Age, -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 08:21AM
Nowhere in that graph do you see a similar rate of change... -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/30/2017 10:11AM
Acknowledging the Earth is that old is a start for many climate science -- BG Hokie 10/30/2017 07:08AM
Question I've not seen the answer to...what is the "right" temperature -- Tafkam Hokie 10/29/2017 9:20PM
Who said it is about the right temperature for earth? -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:42AM
I would say those cities are poorly located. -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 11:34AM
We know humanity has done pretty well at the current temps -- 132629Hokie 10/29/2017 11:48PM
So what if the sea level rises? The coast won't be where it is in a few -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 06:38AM
Millions of years doesnt matter now -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 10:55AM
Be patient... we'll all be on solar by the end of the century. -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 10:57AM
Sooner than that. This shift will happen exponentially, not linear (-ly?) ** -- King Jaffe Joffer 10/30/2017 11:09AM
I agree. I was being conservative. -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 11:15AM
The possibilities are exciting for sure. This is a great thread, -- King Jaffe Joffer 10/30/2017 11:26AM
No, there is a reason to not wait -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 11:01AM
What kind of logic is this? -- 132629Hokie 10/29/2017 7:54PM
Let's transfer means of production to the gov't and redistribute wealth... -- USN_Hokie 10/29/2017 7:56PM
The science isn't, solutions are certainly political -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 8:05PM
When you "cook the books" in respect to data, the "science" is definitely -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:58AM
They didn't cook the books -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:44AM
The issue is they have always been very selective with the data they use -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 10:12AM
My issue is there are scientific solutions, but the only ones pushed are -- Tafkam Hokie 10/29/2017 9:18PM
They aren't mutually exclusive things -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 10:41PM
Both sides are bought by people with political motivations. -- USN_Hokie 10/29/2017 8:33PM
On this particular issue, it is pretty one sided -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 8:38PM
In that case, it works a little backwards. It is about getting money -- Tafkam Hokie 10/29/2017 9:44PM
LOL - you clearly haven't met a lot of these climate scientists -- Hokie Koooster 10/30/2017 07:13AM
Yeah you don't get a PhD for the money -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:45AM
We don't request funding from politicians -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 10:40PM
Multiple things can cause warming? If only scientists saw that chart -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 7:52PM
Re: Multiple things can cause warming? If only scientists saw that chart -- DaveVT 10/29/2017 7:54PM
Who do you think made it? -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 7:55PM
Re: Who do you think made it? -- DaveVT 10/29/2017 8:33PM
Doesn't mean they don't ** -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 8:36PM
Excellent graphic. -- Newt 10/29/2017 7:24PM
Re: Excellent graphic. -- DaveVT 10/29/2017 7:53PM
Agreed. -- Newt 10/29/2017 8:21PM
...and the last million years could contain thousands of small temp... -- USN_Hokie 10/29/2017 7:50PM
For sure...short term fluctuations are to be expected -- Newt 10/29/2017 8:18PM
It sounds like the answer is to destroy the global economy by banning -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 06:46AM
Just to clarify the record: I didn't say that. -- Newt 10/30/2017 11:00AM
That's what I'm gettin at the climate on this planet has been in constant -- Hokie CPA 10/29/2017 7:18PM
Well, that puts the final nail in the coffin on that subject for me. :)** -- MikeVT85 10/29/2017 6:56PM
Remember when Harry Bailey fell through the ice in 1946? Scary -- TexasGobbler 10/29/2017 6:54PM
There are 400 scientific papers this year that question global warming -- VaAkita 10/29/2017 6:26PM
I don't believe it because my favorite political party has influenced me -- BG Hokie 10/29/2017 6:22PM
I blame the sun ** -- TomTurkey 10/29/2017 8:31PM
Pretty much sums it up ** -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:42PM
Don't go there. FYI ** -- grill to chill 10/29/2017 6:17PM
Yeah the climate has been changing for years. -- HIXBURGHOKIE 10/29/2017 5:53PM
I’ve walked out in the middle of the James on the SE side of Rich as a kid. -- Hoakie82 10/29/2017 6:42PM
Right. I remember when an older man -- daisyWV 10/29/2017 6:01PM
There could be other environmental factors too... -- HokieSignGuy 10/29/2017 9:19PM
Before someone shuns me -- daisyWV 10/29/2017 5:28PM
Depends the cause ** -- DaveVT 10/29/2017 5:06PM
Depends and infant diapers ** -- Newt 10/29/2017 6:56PM
We have a lot of scientifically challenged citizens -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 4:46PM
Peer-Reviewed Report From M.I.T. Scientists And EPA Researchers Conclude... -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:52AM
Yeah, what reputable journal published that? -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:55AM
Yeah, but does hot water freeze before cold water out of the spigot? ** -- MikeVT85 10/29/2017 7:00PM
It does due to the Mpemba effect... -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/29/2017 8:49PM
Climate is in a constant state of change. -- EDGEMAN 10/29/2017 5:54PM
There was no global cooling consensus in the scientific literature -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:12PM
Here are a few "global warming" facts you seem to ignore: -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:39AM
The Wall Street journal wrote an opinion piece, so what? ** -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:57AM
Actually there is no "global warming" consensus today -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:34AM
No, within the research field it is pretty heavily to one side -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:58AM
You do like spreading a lot of false assumptions here. -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:21AM
Global Cooling hypothesis - even Wikipedia knows about it -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:29AM
Yeah, just like I said -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 09:59AM
Here's a good "global warming" story from 2013 -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:30AM
East Anglia "Global Warming" corruption (link) & highly flawed model -- EDGEMAN 10/30/2017 07:26AM
I get that there is a warming trend, but there are questions.. -- HokieGator 10/29/2017 7:17PM
CO2 can drive warming -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 7:49PM
Well, we've been on a 30 million year cooling trend. ** -- `lag 10/29/2017 6:58PM
We were... and then something changed... ** -- 132629Hokie 10/29/2017 8:11PM
Never doubted the climate is changing. -- Hokie CPA 10/29/2017 5:25PM
Personal incredulity isnt a valid argument ** -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 5:32PM
The climate was changing 4.5 billion years before humans walked the Earth. -- Hokie CPA 10/30/2017 06:55AM
We don't? -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 10:00AM
Do you think it's caused by mankind? ** -- TexasGobbler 10/29/2017 5:11PM
Nearly, if not all of the warming in the last century, yes -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 5:31PM
So you’re an expert on climate and vaccines? -- VTBB 10/29/2017 6:00PM
No, but there are scientists who write papers explaining their research -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:08PM
Yep. There definitely are. But you, of all people, should know that -- VTBB 10/29/2017 6:14PM
Is your argument all the papers are wrong? -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:18PM
Well, that is in fact proven. By science. See below. ** -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 6:27PM
Did you read this one? For comprehension? -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 6:13PM
Yes, I have, I have met with Dr. Ioannidis at lectures on that issue -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:39PM
There's the catch...these studies and findings that are found -- HokieGator 10/29/2017 7:23PM
That is simply not true -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 7:54PM
The problem in the anthropogenic global warming case -- HokieEngineer 10/30/2017 08:48AM
The problem with those studies is that they didn't have a coherent source.. -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/30/2017 12:35PM
Oh please, systematic suppression my asa -- Manbearpig 10/30/2017 10:01AM
Did you read the East Anglia e-mails? -- HokieEngineer 10/30/2017 10:15AM
I think it does too but even if one doesn’t believe in global warming, the -- Hoakie82 10/29/2017 5:51PM
The problem with you and the other climate change philosophers/clerics -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 5:45PM
Like the warnings on cigarette -- daisyWV 10/29/2017 6:07PM
Huh? I think in 1987 their was good actual science on the dangers of cigs ** -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 6:12PM
Don't know year -- daisyWV 10/29/2017 7:29PM
Nope, no one did a lab test to determine humans smoking causes lung cancer -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:15PM
The breakdown of cigarette pack labels -- daisyWV 10/30/2017 08:51AM
Wow. Lol. Just, wow. ** -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 6:17PM
That is news to you? ** -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:19PM
Yes...news to me that an adult -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 6:23PM
Why? We have well accepted physics that govern warming -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 6:26PM
Have you ever noticed they always say horrible things are going to happen.. -- EDGEMAN 10/29/2017 6:01PM
No theory in science is provable, all are contingent to revision/rejection -- Manbearpig 10/29/2017 5:50PM
Delete....** -- Coach McGuirk 10/29/2017 4:43PM
But unfortunately the deficit won’t because we’ll keep spending. ** -- Hoakie82 10/29/2017 4:59PM
Meh, our human lives are an infintessimal speck on the . . . . -- UEMcGill 10/29/2017 4:32PM
Yeah, our rivers are great to swim in & the bay still has a few oysters & -- Hoakie82 10/29/2017 4:54PM
Your right. The earth will recover. It’s the people living on it -- Indy Hokie 10/29/2017 4:39PM
Well, people suck anyway. Really make it hard on the rest of us. ** -- Tommy Bowden 10/29/2017 6:42PM
Climate change. ☺ ** -- Major Kong 10/29/2017 4:28PM