said we are improved over last year, The statistics support that point. And if you had paid attention to what i have said. I have said we have left wins on the table. And that is disappointing. If you had read the preseason predictions I linked, it wasn't just the coaches making that prediction. It was the media too. I doubt either cares much about the coach. They do care, I think, about the talent. Our freshmen are our highest rated class - top 20. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are ready. The only way to know is to be a part of every practice. I am not there. Based on the minutes KK and AG played, probably should have redshirted them As for Camp, I don't know. All I could do is speculate. I do know that Buzz plays players or sits them for reasons. For instance, a player on the men's team gets more minutes the harder he practices. He sat a player for academics. Just examples. As for our offense, it is the same flex offense that Bobby Knight used his entire career. But I guess you think a Hall of Famer is a moron? I don't know what D Law has to do with anything. He would have played more if he was ready. He wasn't. Another who should have redshirted. Too bad brewers injury ruined that.

Our biggest problem is we need to upgrade our "team" talent. We lack "team" speed and "team" athleticism. We have some who have it. Some who don't.

Last point and I am done with this thread. Based on your criteria, Frank Beamer should have been fired after season 5. And VT football "most likely" (IMHO) would not be where it is today. Thankfully Dave Braine had good gut instincts. I will trust Whit wrt our WBB coaching situation.