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Upwind of uva

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But that's the catch-22, isn't it


EVs won't reach cost parity until battery technology improves and / or economies of scale can be reached in manufacturing. Neither of those happen if every time oil prices go up we layer another round of subsidies on the fossil fuel industry and open up more public lands to drilling, long-term consequences be dammned.

So all the people in this thread that are bagging on Nokie are exactly the barrier to moving away from fossil fuels in a meaningful way. Which is precisely why I laugh at them when they bitch about the price of gas / oil. For the first time they do have options when it comes to their vehicles, yet they cling to ICE and claim they have no choice. It's utter nonsense.

It's also inaccurate to say that no one is pushing fossil fuels -- they're just doing it behaviorally rather than vocally or literally (though there are several people right in this thread whose posts can easily and fairly be described as advocating for fossil fuels in lieu of renewables).

Every person who tells themselves we don't have a viable alternative so we better open up ANWAR to drilling and build those pipelines yesterday is doing the same thing - advocating fossil fuels over migrating to alternatives that certainly have trade-offs -- but for most on this board it's pretty obvious it's not the tradeoff they care about - it's their conservative bona fides they care about.

(In response to this post by Tafkam Hokie)

Posted: 03/04/2022 at 4:53PM



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