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You said the key. NATO. When he touches NATO, we'll step in militarily. ** -- Stork 03/03/2022 3:32PM They would not be surprised. The biggest issue now is that there were no -- HokieNLot11 03/03/2022 1:54PM I was pondering the same thing yesterday about... -- MP4VT2004 03/03/2022 12:02PM Probably not a good idea to run NATO right up to Russia's borders -- mancunian 03/03/2022 11:22AM Sure, let Putin do what he wants, annex Crimea, invade Ukraine. Next? ** -- knuckle junction 03/03/2022 11:58AM The Crimea was historically and ethnically Russian, ceded to the -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:24PM Are you suggesting Putin will stop when the 1954 borders are restored? ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:28PM Those borders were restored in 2014. -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:30PM Ok, so what was your point in responding to -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:33PM Ooooh there's it is. "mancunian is a big ole Commie-Nazi!" ** -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:41PM I didn't say that and you didn't answer the question. ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:44PM I was pointing out the Crimea annexation is boob-bait -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:46PM Ok, so not much. ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:52PM Yeah historical context is pretty pointless. ** -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:21PM I said "not much", not nothing. Intentional nuance. -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 1:26PM The Crimea deal was a response to the coup that overthrew -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:33PM Actually, the Crimea deal goes further back than that, but -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 1:45PM It blows my mind that the Crimea was personally owned -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:57PM Yes, that is pretty wild. Heck even Khrushchev's decision to "give" -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 2:12PM I read somewhere that Khrushchev was drunk -- mancunian 03/03/2022 2:17PM No one ever said that ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 1:51PM Are you sure about that? -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 2:08PM Oh, he was mocking me; but I hadn't said that. -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 2:23PM No worries :-) ** -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 2:29PM Actually that was me being a smart ass. ** -- mancunian 03/03/2022 2:16PM No worries :-) Side note: I do believe there are some people -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 2:21PM But it's easier to just say Putin bad -- Vienna_Hokie 03/03/2022 3:11PM That is very true too. I think that is why I find politics so fascinating -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 3:24PM Invading Poland is a popular choice. ** -- HokieNoVA 03/03/2022 12:08PM In retrospect not a great idea. But that cause was a distant second. -- HokieNoVA 03/03/2022 11:51AM Putin knows no European NATO nation -- HokieR 03/03/2022 1:06PM Putin was always going to do it - doesn't matter- just needed an excuse ** -- bigbadbird 03/03/2022 11:41AM Which particular run up are you referring to? ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 11:33AM The Baltic States, Poland, proposed membership -- mancunian 03/03/2022 11:38AM You think keeping Poland out 23 years ago would have lead to a neutral and -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 11:44AM Well, yeah. I have no trouble understanding the idea -- mancunian 03/03/2022 11:49AM Yeah, that nation really disappeared... -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 11:58AM All of the USSR's forward bases in East Germany and the rest -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:28PM Like the nation, the threat weakened, but never went away, clearly. -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:34PM Yep. Putin is the latest in a long line of Hitlers. Thinking about how -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:40PM I didn't say that and it isn't that looking at how we got here is bad, it's -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:46PM You honestly believe that the Russians, post 1991 -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:51PM Another falsehood. There was no agreement to go back on. -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 1:01PM It was a private assurance from Bush to the Russian leadership. ** -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:06PM Let me know the answer to your last question after he decides to drop a -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 11:47AM What else should we give him, just to make sure he's happy?** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 11:47AM It's not about making sure someone is happy or not. -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 11:53AM But there was no actual threat. He sees ghosts. He can see them anywhere. ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 11:55AM Unless you are in his shoes, then you don't know what he does or doesn't -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 12:17PM I did not say he doesn't feel a threat; in fact the opposite. -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:23PM My response was to this part of your statement -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 12:40PM I believe I was clear that he felt threatened and that is the part that -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:49PM It isn't besides the point though because it helps to explain Putin's -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 1:08PM Which is my point: If you don't know, why acquiese to the unpredictable? -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 1:22PM Hey don't spill the beans -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:11PM The beans were already spilled by James K. Polk, who is the only -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 1:22PM Polk knew how to by God get things done. ** -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:24PM Manifest Destiny my friend. Manifest Destiny. :-) ** -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 1:31PM Polk is an under-examined figure in American history. ** -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:35PM Yes, he is ** -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 1:52PM We were mostly of the "isolationist" mindset back then. Tired of -- Coach McGuirk 03/03/2022 11:15AM NATO is scared of Putin's nuclear arsenal and probably rightfully so, he -- HortHokie 03/03/2022 11:00AM Putin is quick to bring up Nukes, because NATO would kick his ass -- Fatman 03/03/2022 11:27AM Are the Russians really getting their asses kicked? -- mancunian 03/03/2022 11:45AM I'm not positive what their ultimate goal was, but I'm pretty positive they -- reestuart 03/03/2022 12:54PM That's the thing. I have zero trust in any of the media -- mancunian 03/03/2022 12:55PM You could have stopped after "coverage" ** -- EDGEMAN 03/03/2022 1:40PM It's heavily biased for the Ukraine. That's for sure. But at the same -- reestuart 03/03/2022 12:59PM This quote really stuck with me -- mancunian 03/03/2022 1:03PM No. Much harder than it should have been for the perceived Russia? Yes. ** -- RTFC 03/03/2022 12:20PM Completely different world now. Economies are inter-connected. The economic -- HokieHigh 03/03/2022 10:59AM It's been going on longer than that..2008 he did the same in Georgia ** -- Vienna_Hokie 03/03/2022 10:47AM He's not done with Georgia either ** -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 11:00AM Adolph and stalin played off each other in aquiring territories pre-WWII -- kingofcassell 03/03/2022 10:32AM It is believed that Stalin planned to sit back and watch Hitler -- HokieDan95 03/03/2022 10:51AM US and NATO won't step in until he invades a NATO country. Which he won't. ** -- NokieHokie 03/03/2022 10:24AM I think that's probably right - hope so. -- RTFC 03/03/2022 10:43AM Well some Americans would still think it doesn't "matter enough" even if a -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 10:53AM I wonder if people of Vermont wish we got taken over -- VermontDDS 03/03/2022 12:45PM What about Finland? ** -- EDGEMAN 03/03/2022 10:25AM What about it? ** -- NokieHokie 03/03/2022 10:35AM Finland and Sweden aren't members of NATO ** -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 10:27AM Sweden -- Vippie1 03/03/2022 10:51AM It may be a red line, but that doesn't mean NATO would engage the enemy. -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 10:56AM I'd like to think it is a moot point -- Vippie1 03/03/2022 11:05AM Except Sweden isn't a member of NATO and that matters in terms of the PR -- VTHokie2000 03/03/2022 11:12AM He's shown his military can blow random things up - not conquer anything ** -- bigbadbird 03/03/2022 10:18AM I spoke this morning with -- VTUD 03/03/2022 11:53AM Me reading your post: Hey this should be interesting! ..... Oh. ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 12:03PM Well, he was successful in his first Ukraine invasion -- EDGEMAN 03/03/2022 10:19AM But different in that the local population -- Vippie1 03/03/2022 10:48AM Yeah, there was very little resistance there. Way different now. ** -- reestuart 03/03/2022 11:46AM I think they were mostly unarmed at that point ? ** -- bigbadbird 03/03/2022 10:22AM And it was just after the major upheaval of the government (Euromaidan) ** -- jmanatVT 03/03/2022 11:37AM That's the razor's edge the world is walking on right now. ** -- Upwind of uva 03/03/2022 10:16AMTech Sideline is Presented By:
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