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AirborneHokie96

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Trained with the Spetnaz in Russia years ago


Did an exchange with the Spetnaz years ago that involved spending time in the USA and Russia with combined military operations. At the time, we were looking to work on counter terrorism things with them as partners but it was also an exercise in understanding the tactics of a major military.

What is happening in Ukraine right now shows me that there has been very little evolution in their tactics and mentality. Years ago, they were a product of heavily reliance of gaining and maintaining fire superiority over an adversary with large weapons as well as quick movement to penetrate gaps. Not saying that this is necessarily wrong as you always want to gain fire superiority while maintain the ability to move fast....but with the Russians, they
(1) Are typically conscripts (even more so now as many of their better soldiers are fighting for The Wagner Group ...a PMC)
(2) They do not have a strong NCO corps
(3) They are highly centralized in their decision making
(4) Their weaponry is not very accurate causing them to place a heavier reliance on massed fire thus expending mass quantities of ammo and creating collateral damage situations.

Why is this an issue in Ukraine? Because the Ukrainians (the birthplace of one of my great grandfathers) have been very hard for the Russians to "place" in particular situation. They are adaptive, highly unpredictable, and are fighting on their own "homefield" in an urban/city environment with a lot of variables. This is causing huge issues with the Russian boots on the ground as they really do not have the experience or knowledge to react quickly. They are not as quick to recognize ambushes, they are poorly led on the ground, they cannot use their major strength (armor) as easily in an urban center (I love that the Ukrainians are hunting them with hunter/killer groups armed with Javelins and NLaws). Both weapon systems that we have given them (Javelines and Stingers) are so much better than the Russian equivalents and in this setting, they have a tremendous ability to inflict max damage to an invading force that is poorly led on the ground and does not operate in a system where an individual can make a quick decision and others will follow).

Posted: 02/27/2022 at 1:53PM



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Trained with the Spetnaz in Russia years ago -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 1:53PM
  That pic was in the USA (and not in Vladivostock) -- AirborneHokie96 02/28/2022 08:13AM
  May St.Wlad of Kiev beg for them!!! -- bourbonstreet 02/28/2022 3:55PM
  Someone posted -- VTUD 02/27/2022 3:17PM
  Link here -- SavannaHokie 02/27/2022 7:01PM
  Similar problems they faced in Afghanistan -- RunHokieRun 02/27/2022 2:54PM
  Agreed. -- TabbHokie 02/27/2022 3:13PM
  Both them and China were supplying the Taliban.... ** -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 3:19PM
  They are getting resupplied already ** -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 3:09PM
  That's great news. Thanks ** -- HokieR 02/27/2022 3:14PM
  Yes, I think we have to continue to supply mass quantities -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 3:00PM
  Not true -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 2:40PM
  FFS! Airborne you are literally a rocket scientist! -- HokieNerd 02/27/2022 4:46PM
  Not a rocket scientist at all -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 5:42PM
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  Similar to what Chechens did in Groznya -- Happy Dog 02/27/2022 6:17PM
  ...yups. ^this^... there is NO way back for him. none. ** -- bourbonstreet 02/27/2022 6:13PM
  I am not trained to think as a politician (thank god) -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 2:20PM
  I don't share anything anyone doesn't want me to -- AirborneHokie96 02/28/2022 08:05AM
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  Here is a cool tweet from Ukraine to Russian soldiers -- AirborneHokie96 02/27/2022 3:58PM
  I saw that...that is rad! ** -- HokieNerd 02/27/2022 4:48PM

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