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I think what Tombo is trying to say is something like this ...

He doesn't want to see us have an overall weak season at face value that -- JUST BECAUSE THE COASTAL SUCKS AND WE WIN IT -- extends Fuente's tour here. Say we go 5-3 with a bunch of 4-4 teams and one 3-5 team.

We get blown out by Notre Dame, come home and squeak by Pitt and Syracuse to get to 3-0 in conference. We get beat by a couple TDs on the road against GT and BC, then squeak by Dook. We're 4-2, then lose big to Miami while beating UVA to finish the season and get the Coastal nod at 5-3 in conference. Three other teams all lose on that final day who would have won the tiebreaker against us.

At this point we're 7-5 overall and didn't beat a good team past UNC (and even they are questionably good). We win the Coastal, sure, but ... did we really? Or did everyone else lose it?

But the bigger question is -- have we improved?? Has Fuente advanced the team? Tombo seems to be saying two things: First, in such a situation we would NOT have improved as a program, but at the same time he thinks winning the Coastal would give the administration cover to not fire Fuente when it's still necessary, Coastal title or not.

Try to look at his posts this evening like this: If we go 7-5 with ugly losses and continued performances like we saw today, do you think Fuente would need to go? But if we somehow stumble into a Coastal crown in the midst of such a season, does that factor into the decision-making? Why or why not?

He seems to cynically think a Coastal crown in a sucky season would provide cover; it's not an unreasonable thought process. It's tough to extrapolate that to "you want us to fail so much you're rooting against us winning the division," though. He just thinks IF we win, it'll be an ugly win that does more harm longerm than good.

And I think we all know we have history at VT of short-term success doing more harm than good to long-term success by providing a crutch to lean on.

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Posted: 09/25/2021 at 11:34PM

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At least the acc coastal is an easy divison to win, teams are whack ** -- VTfootballfan 09/25/2021 10:06PM

No one should want us to win. We have no business being the representative -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:24PM

This post belongs here.... -- MBHokie90 09/26/2021 08:46AM

I think what Tombo is trying to say is something like this ... -- Nova Hokie 95 09/25/2021 11:34PM

Just say you're want a new HC and staff so bad you want -- Snape 09/25/2021 11:13PM

Those are your words not mine ** -- Tombo 09/25/2021 11:14PM

I can read your tea leaves dude. It's blatantly there. ** -- Snape 09/25/2021 11:19PM

That's kooky talk ** -- Brown Water 09/25/2021 10:52PM

Well there it is… the worst take of the day… and it was some stiff -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 10:39PM

I will absolutely root for us to win. -- VT_Consul 09/25/2021 10:38PM

"Winning the coastal will set us back further". LOL -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:32PM

Explain how it helps? ** -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:33PM

You want to know how winning a divisional title helps. -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:38PM

That sounds like someone with no answer ** -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:41PM

Yeah that's it, you got me! lol -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:44PM

You can stop hitting reply to my posts anytime you like -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:46PM

This may be the most ignorant post I've seen on this board ** -- Brown Water 09/25/2021 10:56PM

Fine. I think 97Hokie below summed it nicely below, just nicer than I -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:53PM

Got it. I'm allowed to have an opinion but only if I have on O&M glasses -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:58PM

Back at ya: explain how winning the Coastal hurts. ** -- Will Stewart

09/25/2021 10:37PM

It would buy more time for a coaching staff that needs to go -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:39PM

Winning the Coastal is part of the process ** -- VaTechHokiesACC 09/25/2021 10:51PM

I’m not sure even your “non-negotiable” is accurate. Definitely not -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 10:49PM

If they will the Coastal is FU still holding the program back? ** -- 97Hokie 09/25/2021 10:44PM

Can those two things not be true at the same time? -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:45PM

Who do you really think we can get as a coach that is better? ** -- 97Hokie 09/25/2021 10:51PM

I have no idea - I'm sure those conversations are taking place -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:53PM

I’m sorry, but if we can’t win the coastal this year I don’t think this jo -- 97Hokie 09/25/2021 10:58PM

No. They can’t. Winning the coastal is literally what we all want as first -- 97Hokie 09/25/2021 10:49PM

I don't hate Fu. I actually like the guy and am on record as saying -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:51PM

“I like the guy and wanted him to work out but I’m also rooting against him -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 11:21PM

This will be my last post to you: I am not rooting against him -- Tombo 09/25/2021 11:24PM

So you’re not rooting against the team but you think it would be -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 11:33PM

So how do you know that winning the coastal this year wouldn’t send us -- 97Hokie 09/25/2021 10:55PM

What do you think the odds of that are with the current state of the -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:57PM

Dude you are a trip. You are so desperate for a change you think we need, -- 97Hokie 09/25/2021 11:13PM

You should root for Nebraska. Excellent case study for why good enough -- proudhokie2001 09/25/2021 11:06PM

Sometimes you have to know who you are ** -- VaTechHokiesACC 09/25/2021 11:14PM

Forget where I read it but good enough is the opposite of -- Tombo 09/25/2021 11:11PM

Hogwash ** -- GCHokieof91 09/25/2021 10:30PM

Somebody has to win it ** -- VaTechHokiesACC 09/25/2021 10:30PM

Let it be a team headed in the right direction... ** -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:32PM

By definition a team that wins -- YardBird 09/25/2021 11:38PM

Set us back further? -- HokiePokie95 09/25/2021 10:29PM

Exactly. You think WB is going to fire a coach that won the Coastal -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:32PM

LOL...dude. -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:35PM

Sometimes you need short term sacrifice for long term gain -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:36PM

What about the team that lost to JMU? ** -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 10:41PM

You're honestly going to compare that team to this one? -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:43PM

Hey it’s your logic here. You claim that a team that only beat Richmond by -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 10:46PM

My point was the team that went on a 10 game win streak -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:48PM

No your point was a team that performs poorly vs an FCS school doesn’t -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 10:52PM

You made lots of assumptions in your post. My example was Richmond -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:55PM

I didn’t make any assumptions. I literally went on what you posted. -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 11:03PM

You did. I wasn't speaking only about Richmond but used -- Tombo 09/25/2021 11:09PM

Saying “you did” doesn’t make it true. I used the logic you provide to -- AbsolutVT03 09/25/2021 11:16PM

You have your opinion and I have mine. And using words like -- Tombo 09/25/2021 11:17PM

What about the team that scored 3 and 14 vs. UGA and GT -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:39PM

How did Clemson come into this conversation? I said they aren't Clemson -- Tombo 09/25/2021 10:40PM

It's a team game. Our O ain't great but winning is winning ** -- VTraised 09/25/2021 10:42PM

Not so easy -- Hokiebayne 09/25/2021 10:10PM

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