13 families now, 12 Marines and their Devil Doc -- Happy Dog 08/26/2021 8:09PM
Pretty sure the group was from Camp Lejeune in NC -- FlintMS 08/26/2021 5:23PM
They were from the 1/8 -- Happy Dog 08/26/2021 8:07PM
1/8 is the BLT for the 24the MEU....very sad situation -- FlintMS 08/26/2021 9:35PM
Very heartbreaking -- Happy Dog 08/27/2021 06:07AM
I feel for the families, i was blessed during my time. -- FlintMS 08/27/2021 07:34AM
Thanks for your words -- Happy Dog 08/27/2021 07:41AM
I have found -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 08:38AM
Glad to see you have found a path of light -- Happy Dog 08/27/2021 08:49AM
God Bless him -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 09:27AM
Agreed. Cried today for the first time in a long time. ** -- TabbHokie 08/26/2021 6:07PM
We knew it was coming -- TabbHokie 08/26/2021 4:52PM
Yep. And weve given the NAMES of remaining americans and helpers out.... -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 5:46PM
🤬🤬🤬 ** -- B777Fr8Dog 08/26/2021 8:07PM
When does it pass from simply stupid to CRIMINAL?! ** -- HOKIERIT 08/26/2021 7:57PM
It already has, IMO yet people are still turning a blind up eye. ** -- Hoakie82 08/26/2021 11:57PM
Criminal, treasonous and pure evil. I can not believe we are even -- HokiesBill48 08/26/2021 9:29PM
You do realize the previous administration was also negotiating and making -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 10:57PM
This isn't about leaving, this is about pulling the plug and everything-> -- HOKIERIT 08/27/2021 2:58PM
Again my post was mostly in response to this line of the post I was -- AbsolutVT03 08/27/2021 3:03PM
I don't fault the previous admin for starting dialogue -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 10:57AM
..and the :"ending" is what I have a SERIOUS problem with.. ** -- HOKIERIT 08/27/2021 3:01PM
My point was the notion that this administration was the only one who -- AbsolutVT03 08/27/2021 2:52PM
But the deadline and prior administration negotiations had ... -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 4:49PM
Again my main point was that it wasn't just the current administration that -- AbsolutVT03 08/27/2021 5:15PM
I do know about those negotiations -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 5:24PM
.well said. people like to live in the present with no understanding of -- squarerootofone 08/27/2021 08:32AM
Many should be resigning, right now. ** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 9:16PM
Who knew that ISIS had a 'K' variant? ** -- vt90 08/26/2021 5:38PM
The body of your post sums up my feelings about all this pretty accurately. -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:31PM
Apparently there's been another blast. It's basically back to war -- hoosnowahokie 08/26/2021 4:20PM
I almost wonder at this point if the "best" (and I use that term loosely) -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:28PM
Should have been done MONTHS ago IMO.too late for that now-> -- HOKIERIT 08/26/2021 8:00PM
The Taliban won't last either. They are -- HokieR 08/26/2021 4:59PM
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 ** -- Major Kong 08/26/2021 4:12PM
13 KIA . 12 marines , 1 navy medic. Many injured. Ugh** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 4:00PM
My brother was a Navy medic stationed with the Marines. They were hit by a -- HokieGator 08/26/2021 5:17PM
Amen to that. ** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 5:43PM
😡😢🙏🏻 -- B777Fr8Dog 08/26/2021 3:26PM
Unfortunately, I think you will have bide your time for a long time until -- vtox1 08/26/2021 6:52PM
Pray for those caught behind enemy lines.... ** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 4:06PM
"A-men!" ☦️ ** -- bourbonstreet 08/26/2021 5:44PM
Tricky part here is it apparently was not the Taliban but a branch of ISIS. -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 3:40PM
But who would the Taliban really be more aligned with? ISIS or the US? -- Maroon Effect 08/26/2021 6:16PM
My point is we can't really retaliate against the Taliban for something -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:34PM
I always HATED the term "War on Terror" -- SteveInBaltimore 08/26/2021 6:49PM
Also hate it’s cousin, “the war on drugs” ** -- agray123 08/26/2021 8:05PM
I agree with just about everything you said. I think it was V for Vendetta -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:54PM
We fundamentally agree. Pointless endless wars -- Maroon Effect 08/26/2021 6:38PM
In this particular scenario I'm not sure. Obviously "getting humiliated" -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:43PM
Sad to see -- hokie77th 08/26/2021 7:07PM
I highly doubt joe biden made the decision on how. That was more likely the -- NokieHokie 08/27/2021 12:19AM
I try to look at things from all angles. The decision to withdrawal as -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 11:14PM
Afgan Army was only functional with US air support and U.S. paying their -- vtox1 08/26/2021 7:06PM
I’ve seen people make this point and I get that an air base itself is -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 11:23PM
Well, Bagram was outside Of city not as close to urban masses. -- vtox1 08/26/2021 11:32PM
Not to mention .CTR’s doing their maintenance on aircraft and other stuff -- agray123 08/26/2021 8:08PM
Jmho, I think we should have kept Bagram permanently and small force we had -- vtox1 08/26/2021 9:25PM
If I understand what you’re saying, I agree. There is precedent -- Maroon Effect 08/26/2021 10:21PM
Pick one province or two to just not leave. Ditch Ghani etc ** -- agray123 08/26/2021 9:31PM
Nothing tricky about it. Big targets of opportunity for them. Chaos ** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 4:10PM
Tricky in terms of how we are able to respond. Not many good options. ** -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:18PM
There are none at this point. Pray ** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 5:47PM
A sophisticated intel network would know not only who did this but where -- PhotoHokieNC 08/26/2021 3:47PM
If only James Bond were on the case instead of a bunch of gov't workers -- HokieNoVA 08/26/2021 4:17PM
Im stunned to hear CENTCOM say he gets his insights not from intel but from -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 4:15PM
Does he read the daily intelligence briefs? -- HokieR 08/26/2021 4:29PM
Actually he did, but keep the narrative rolling ** -- 133743Hokie 08/26/2021 10:05PM
False ** -- RRHOKIE 08/27/2021 08:23AM
Yes, the statement about the last guy was indeed false ** -- 133743Hokie 08/27/2021 10:16AM
No -- RRHOKIE 08/27/2021 12:24PM
Geez. The things some people's believe. Ok ** -- 133743Hokie 08/27/2021 3:40PM
The sad thing is this whole thing was set in motion long before either one -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:34PM
Baloney -this is squarely on hapless joe and party, including Sen warner on -- Kappa Sig Hokie 08/26/2021 8:50PM
Not remotely true. Views like yours are disappointing but not remotely -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 10:51PM
Somewhere around 2500 us troops have died there -- Vippie1 08/26/2021 5:13PM
Completely agree. But in the current -- HokieR 08/26/2021 4:52PM
The problem is ... -- vt90 08/26/2021 3:45PM
Troop levels had generally hit rock bottom in 2015 anticipating 2016 exit -- lchoro 08/26/2021 5:04PM
Those soldiers never should've been there in the first place. ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 4:53PM
Can't disagree with you there ** -- vt90 08/26/2021 4:57PM
The taliban were willing to hand over bin laden to dubya. But we don't deal -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 4:58PM
My recollection is W went in because they would not hand bin laden over... -- Hungry Joe 08/26/2021 5:06PM
What evidence do you have to support your recollections? But here's mine... -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 5:12PM
Your own source indicates they were not willing to hand him over to us. -- Hungry Joe 08/26/2021 5:24PM
It said they were willing if we stopped the bombing. Seems reasonable... ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 5:38PM
It did not say they were willing... -- Hungry Joe 08/26/2021 6:32PM
And you know it was a BS offer how? ** -- NokieHokie 08/27/2021 12:20AM
Those soldiers never should've been there in the first place. ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 4:53PM
Or we should have listed to the military when they said not to abandon -- AirborneHokie96 08/26/2021 9:38PM
We wouldn't have to if we weren't there at all. End the military grifting. ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 9:46PM
It's mostly counter-terrorism these days -- AirborneHokie96 08/26/2021 9:57PM
Look, the exit was botched, exactly what I expected from the government. It -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 10:03PM
It's not what I expected because information was given and then ignored -- AirborneHokie96 08/26/2021 10:07PM
Well "the military" told "the government" that the Afghan govt would hold -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 10:08PM
That's not what I know to be the truth ** -- AirborneHokie96 08/26/2021 10:18PM
What do you know to be the truth? ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 10:56PM
What I stated above -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 08:28AM
Totally with you on the wuhan lab leak. As far as abandoning bigram, okay. -- NokieHokie 08/27/2021 09:43AM
Politicians lost the "war" -- AirborneHokie96 08/27/2021 10:02AM
My overall answer would be because trump agreed to get us out in May. I'd -- NokieHokie 08/27/2021 10:17AM
can't disagree with you here either. :)** -- vt90 08/26/2021 4:57PM
Yeah. There's a better plan than this one. Our allies are PO'd. They -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 4:17PM
The UK also thought the Afghani Army would hold out much longer than they -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:20PM
Afghan Army members have been dropping weapons and surrendering -- TabbHokie 08/26/2021 5:05PM
I mean if we want to get really technical they probably should have never -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 3:50PM
Or at least since Bin Laden was found ** -- WestyHokie 08/26/2021 5:41PM
Can’t you just say ol joe screwed up massively? ** -- fordham 08/26/2021 4:25PM
Extremely myopic view and that's part of the problem. What we're seeing -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:10PM
Respectfully, both the current and former president knew the public wanted -- Maroon Effect 08/26/2021 6:21PM
My point on that is that it's less of a defense of how this played out and -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:38PM
We are going to have to agree to disagree here. -- Maroon Effect 08/26/2021 6:41PM
Fair enough. The unfortunate thing is there's no way we'll ever know who -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:50PM
BINGO! ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 10:04PM
Watch John Oliver from 8/22 - Bush, Obama, Trump all saying how well it was -- agray123 08/26/2021 5:28PM
Bingo. This is a failure that spans multiple years, administrations, and -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 6:13PM
The current failure is upon the current President -- hokie77th 08/26/2021 6:35PM
We lost a lot more fine soldiers to greed and corruption by the military -- NokieHokie 08/27/2021 12:23AM
I get your point - but continued FP fails at “Nation Building” have to stop -- agray123 08/26/2021 6:45PM
This! ** -- NokieHokie 08/27/2021 12:23AM
I can say every president is war criminal and they all screwed up massively ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 5:03PM
We'll never agree here so won't waste space but GreenvilleVT raises a ... -- vt90 08/26/2021 3:54PM
Like I said, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Not sure what you're -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:00PM
I think what most of us are saying is that... -- MP4VT2004 08/26/2021 4:04PM
And I'm saying the people claiming "most of this could have been avoided" -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:17PM
The alternative would have been... -- MP4VT2004 08/26/2021 3:51PM
And like I said, even if you do things in that order, what happened today -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 3:55PM
There was precisely a way to do it well. You don't announce a date -- PhotoHokieNC 08/26/2021 4:01PM
Current DoD confounds me with arbitrary dates, not tied to LOE -- agray123 08/26/2021 5:32PM
If we had evacuated civilians first... -- MP4VT2004 08/26/2021 4:00PM
…yes. this is what I can’t get past…seems so logical -- chumley 08/26/2021 5:37PM
I think you're missing my point. It doesn't really have to do with sending -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:06PM
If we still held Bagram this could have been entirely avoided ... -- vt90 08/26/2021 4:00PM
No way to say an act of terror especially involving suicide bombers could -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:03PM
If this was done in an orderly fashion... -- MP4VT2004 08/26/2021 4:08PM
Sounds great on paper, but it doesn't actually make much sense. -- Gobbler-100 08/26/2021 4:15PM
Right, I understand that. I'm saying the same opportunities could have -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:12PM
If Bagram was secured ... and we could certainly do that ... -- vt90 08/26/2021 4:05PM
The date thing was something done by multiple administrations correct? One -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:10PM
Yep. There's no clean way to get out of war... IIWII. ** -- NokieHokie 08/26/2021 4:59PM
It sure would be great if we had an airbase nearby -- GreenvilleVT 08/26/2021 3:45PM
That still wouldn't prevent potential terror attacks aimed at civilians -- AbsolutVT03 08/26/2021 4:30PM
Umm, can u spell bagram? ** -- ColoVT82 08/26/2021 4:03PM
😢 ** -- reestuart 08/26/2021 3:05PM
🙏😭 ** -- astrohokie 08/26/2021 2:59PM
Damnit. Terrible and needless. ** -- Brewing_Hokie 08/26/2021 2:58PM
12 now confirmed and number could go up. ** -- vt90 08/26/2021 2:38PM
ISIS-Khorasan a group that was getting support from India -- lchoro 08/26/2021 2:34PM
A report says this number will rise ** -- capitals1 08/26/2021 2:24PM
I’ve already seen 13 but all these early numbers can’t be trusted. ** -- Hoakie82 08/26/2021 2:30PM
Damnit ** -- PhotoHokieNC 08/26/2021 2:22PM
Prayers to their families and fellow soldiers. Such a tremendously sad ... -- vt90 08/26/2021 2:21PM
I was at Bragg on the 4th of July. -- GreenvilleVT 08/26/2021 3:47PM