"And despite that downturn -- which didn't actually feature a losing record,..."

As we sometimes complain about the final few seasons and both sides debate how they felt about the program, we have to consider how lucky we are (and check ourselves sometimes) when you remember the feelings we had of hitting bottom (by virtue of our own expectations) represent a level of success a lot of programs strive for.

Not sure about this weekend's outcome, but I know I'm going to be happy either way.

Go Hokies!