Same thing happened against Arkansas, Cuse, and ND too. That's part of it.

I remember a guy not so long ago who came into the ACC and seemingly overachieved early on there. He actually won ACC Coach of the Year fairly early on too. You remember him? Al Groh. His successor did the same. Mike London. They beat some pretty good coaches then too.

Anyhow, I think Fuente's good. I also think it's pretty obvious Bud's about the best in the biz. However, those other guys have gotten it done for a much longer time than him. You really can't go by one 4 loss season. Johnson's had a few of those, and better.