should be the expectation right now? Notice I said expectation, not hope. Short the Beamer Bubble we have never been there and Fu has a much shorter stack of assets to work with now than Frank had then, relatively speaking. And Frank's acheivement dwarf the non coaching support he got. That is why he is in the hall of fame.

I take issue with persons who adamantly cling to the position that top 10 finishes etc are the right of VT and without them everybody should loudly criticize mostly the coach and staff.

That doesn't mean I think the current staff is great or even significantly above average. It does mean that until the issues of apparent differing visions of football on opposite sides of the drillfield are job one, not criticising the coachs