Have you been to Clemson? They are a school in a field just like us. How are they any different? More winning tradition and culture?

It's deeper than just having 8-9 win seasons in a below average conference and beating weak out of conference teams. It's about recruiting in the state and forming a culture around the program. Everyone is so quick to talk about how low the program was when Fuente took over (Beamer's last years). First losing season since 92. The head coach when the streak to UVA was snapped. Our bowl streak would have been snapped under Fuente if we didn't extend to playing Marshall. ZERO signature wins. Look at the bowls we have been in? Arkansas our only bowl win? I can keep going on if I want...I am amazed at how many defend Fuente on here when the facts are right in front of them. He has done nothing to elevate our program in any positive direction.

What if we were not in the Coastal of the ACC. What if we were in the SEC or Big 10? We've had some of our worst recruiting classes in a long time under Fuente. You think if Nick Saban replaced Beamer and was going into this 5th year that we would be where we are right now? Dabo Swinney? We need a winner. This ain't Memphis.