It is harder, alot. But ND is in the process of

deemphazeing football like they have previously. The keeping of Kelly and Swarbrick giving him free reign to run the program in to the ground shows this. We are not committed, and we will play this out because we do not plan on competing at a high level.

The admin has strung along the fan-base for decades and the chickens will be coming home to roost soon.

Independence is now about fundraising, not about tradition. Soak it for every dolaar and give the carrot we want to be good.

Our goal is 8 wins a year, anything more is massivily impressive to SwarCon. Saavy needs to go more than Kelly at this point.

In response to this post by Stech

Posted: 07/15/2017 at 09:33AM

Q&A with Jack Swarbrick. Doesn't see philosophy changing. -- HOO86 07/14/2017 5:16PM

Pretty strong language here -- TerryD 07/18/2017 07:08AM

ND vs P5 -- Millpoint 07/15/2017 8:38PM

It's harder for them "not" being in a conference...10 yrs ago it was easier -- Stech 07/15/2017 08:24AM

He also meant academic restrictions.... -- TerryD 07/15/2017 10:03AM

Our recruiting "disadvantage: story is 99% B>S. If we want someone -- goldendomer 07/15/2017 10:33AM

I appreciate your honesty. By the way,... -- Old Line Hokie 07/15/2017 12:00PM

I just said that they claim it, not offered for the truth of it ** -- TerryD 07/15/2017 12:01PM

I know, just tired of that excuse -- goldendomer 07/15/2017 2:59PM

It is harder, alot. But ND is in the process of -- goldendomer 07/15/2017 09:33AM

Need to replace the tunnel sign: "Play like an Independent". ** -- manassashoo 07/15/2017 11:02AM

Can claim "Champions" of Indiana!!!! -- East Cobb Hokie 07/17/2017 2:43PM

Please explain the link between fundraising and independence -- manassashoo 07/15/2017 09:41AM

Many donors will refuse to donate if indy gone -- TerryD 07/15/2017 10:04AM

The subway fans have no skin in ND itself. They just like the idea -- IB4TECH 07/15/2017 3:32PM

It is the alumni.. -- TerryD 07/15/2017 4:33PM

ND has a lot of wealthy alumni, not many billionaires -- goldendomer 07/15/2017 5:28PM

Yep, they will turn off the spigot.. Many threats happened this year -- goldendomer 07/15/2017 10:30AM

P4 Conf Champs only is the only way they join a conf, the only debate is -- Stech 07/15/2017 11:24AM

Ha ha about Auburn, hell they never had played VT -- Maroon Doom 07/14/2017 5:58PM

Wrong VT played Auburn when Sharpe (or Dooley) coached -- NW Raleigh Hokie 07/15/2017 10:48AM

Sorry, didn't make myself very clear. -- Maroon Doom 07/15/2017 7:20PM

Is Mizzu the only SEC team we haven't played? -- EDGEMAN 07/14/2017 7:00PM

Doesn't look like we've played Miss State. ** -- reestuart 07/15/2017 08:20AM

Played Ol' Miss in 1914. Won 34 - 13. ** -- IB4TECH 07/14/2017 10:18PM

Also played Ol' Miss in the 1968 Liberty Bowl. ** -- RJHokie 07/14/2017 10:22PM

You're right. I wasn't at that one. ** -- IB4TECH 07/14/2017 10:58PM

Lol ** -- daveinop 07/15/2017 08:35AM

Edge I was talking about Notre Dame not playing VT. -- Maroon Doom 07/14/2017 8:14PM

Sorry, but I wanted to know the answer. ** -- EDGEMAN 07/15/2017 1:41PM

It is harder, alot. But ND is in the process of

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