Don't know why anyone would be upset/surprised... -- TerryD 06/21/2017 2:49PM
We are not joining. ND is secure at minimum till 2036 -- goldendomer 06/22/2017 07:00AM
WADR if they go to a P-4, I am not buying your date. -- Stech 06/22/2017 8:39PM
What's the incentive for any of the conferences to want to go -- reestuart 06/23/2017 11:31AM
Not necessarily. The Playoff can incorporate the CCGs -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 12:58PM
If they go to 8 team, I'm sure it will include all conference champs, -- reestuart 06/23/2017 1:20PM
If they go to 8, then it is unlikely the Presidents will agree -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 1:37PM
Agree with that, but the at-larges will still need to come from somewhere. -- reestuart 06/23/2017 1:48PM
ND can always join the ACC -- EDGEMAN 06/24/2017 07:22AM
Since conferences are not going to give up their CCGs -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 2:05PM
OK, sorry. I can be dense at times. I'm not sure how to essentially -- reestuart 06/23/2017 3:22PM
No worries. It can get confusing at times because there -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 3:55PM
The separation is real . -- goldendomer 06/23/2017 07:01AM
They won't accept irrelevance for very long. "token access" will kill -- daveinop 06/23/2017 4:46PM
You assume ND cares about winning? They don't. -- goldendomer 06/23/2017 10:31PM
You are Exhibit A that ND fans care a lot about winning ** -- daveinop 06/24/2017 10:20AM
Fans do, but there is a mix in the fan-base about -- goldendomer 06/24/2017 1:11PM
Time tends to take care of these things. Hopefully some of the changes you -- daveinop 06/25/2017 12:03PM
Even if NBC decided to not renew the contract, you don't think -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 4:56PM
The only reason NBC doesn't renew is if it isn't profitable -- daveinop 06/24/2017 10:18AM
I could see NBC decide not to renew because it was able to lure -- VTHokie2000 06/26/2017 10:57AM
Yeah, they'd get another deal in less than a couple of seconds. -- reestuart 06/23/2017 9:04PM
The only possible reason I could see NBC decide to not renew -- VTHokie2000 06/24/2017 10:11AM
Correct. All ACC decisions should be based.... -- TerryD 06/22/2017 1:48PM
Caveat: ACC can have an impact on playoff criteria/definition. -- crabcake77 06/22/2017 11:04PM
If the power conference left the ACC to form their own association -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 12:57PM
Re: If the power conference left the ACC to form their own association -- 33laszlo99 06/23/2017 12:18AM
Making the ACC "attractive" enough for ND is folly -- TerryD 06/23/2017 11:26AM
ACC screwed up when it struck the original deal with ND. -- Atlee Hokie 06/28/2017 04:56AM
Some ND fans think ND gave up too much -- TerryD 06/28/2017 05:14AM
Understand that. I'm mostly thinking of the future. -- Atlee Hokie 06/28/2017 05:30AM
Understood ** -- TerryD 06/28/2017 5:32PM
If I were running the conference, when the current contract ended .... -- Atlee Hokie 06/28/2017 05:01AM
Yes, I did mean the NCAA not the ACC. Yes, I know the Playoff -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 10:25AM
Without knowledge of all legal issues with that.. -- TerryD 06/22/2017 1:15PM
I don't know all the legal issues that would come with that either -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 1:33PM
The fact is with the plan -- goldendomer 06/22/2017 1:45PM
Oh I know anyone can sue anyone for anything these days -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 1:56PM
Good luck selling "token access" to recruits and future Head coaches... -- Mr. Touchdown 06/22/2017 11:13AM
They're not making a run like that more than once a decade. -- reestuart 06/22/2017 1:41PM
It's more fun to dislike you guys when you are good -- daveinop 06/23/2017 4:37PM
Did you run that post by Tim Brando? ** -- reestuart 06/21/2017 4:36PM
He has no "souces" at ND.... -- TerryD 06/22/2017 07:51AM
Ree said that TIC. ** -- goldendomer 06/22/2017 07:54AM
Yep. ** -- reestuart 06/22/2017 12:50PM
Maybe some in the ACC thought things would be different -- VTHokie2000 06/21/2017 3:22PM
ACC knew exactly what they were doing -- Mercury 06/21/2017 4:15PM
The ACC may have known what it was doing when it agreed to the deal -- VTHokie2000 06/21/2017 6:55PM
Actually clemson president wake and duke president involved -- Mercury 06/22/2017 1:09PM
Clemson isn't a private school ** -- Bashful Baron 06/22/2017 2:23PM
Typical picky answer -- Mercury 06/22/2017 6:33PM
Hold on a minute... -- Bashful Baron 06/22/2017 10:50PM
Who in the world thinks Clemson is private? -- EDGEMAN 06/23/2017 09:56AM
I do believe the vast majority of people within the ACC Family -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 1:27PM
So, they ignored clear statements from ND and went with -- TerryD 06/21/2017 3:45PM
ND is putting language into its contracts about joining a conference. -- HOO86 06/21/2017 4:04PM
Question is have they put that language in contracts in the past? -- reestuart 06/21/2017 4:37PM
Doubtful. Wouldn't have been a need to specify 5 games. ** -- HOO86 06/21/2017 4:41PM
True dat, but I wonder if they'd put any type of conference -- reestuart 06/21/2017 4:44PM
Not sure. They're doing it now though. -- HOO86 06/21/2017 4:55PM
Contingency only, not plan or intent -- TerryD 06/21/2017 5:17PM
Why do a contingency now versus the other 100+ yrs where it wasn't needed? ** -- Stech 06/21/2017 5:38PM
Easy----insurance if a P4 playoff only happens -- TerryD 06/22/2017 07:58AM
If that happens, we need to follow up with enough ACC Ice Hockey programs.. -- EDGEMAN 06/23/2017 09:59AM
NHL is sponsoring a feasibility study for more college hockey -- HOO86 06/23/2017 10:38AM
I completely agree. Also, -- Stech 06/22/2017 5:40PM
^^ This is accurate. ^^ ** -- crabcake77 06/22/2017 10:16AM
Re: ^^ This is accurate. ^^ -- crabcake77 06/22/2017 10:18AM
Was it ND's stipulation or the ACC's? -- dayooper 06/21/2017 6:50PM
It's ND's contract, not the ACC's contract. ** -- Stech 06/22/2017 07:02AM
Thanks* ** -- dayooper 06/22/2017 08:09AM
Basically. It may not be that much different than how some -- VTHokie2000 06/21/2017 4:03PM