compete. As good as this group is, they were still a tad behind Clemson, UVA, and Carolina, but there isn't much separation, but would need another year or two like this to move into the upper echelon. Our facility is so depressing (and got left out unfortunately), it is amazing Jim has not gone to another program, but he loves it here and now that his son is part of the program, will more than likely finish his career here.......might be the nicest guy in the athletic department (or darn near the nicest :-)).......but he moved the needle with this group for sure......