WADR I already have and you can't see it. Like I said, time to move on, except for now that VT is out of the Conference Championship run I hope it plays out and we get the real answer. That doesn't mean if it does ND will change their mind, but will it put increased pressure if it does happen. If so, how much?

PS I think with your age group, not much, but the other age groups and maybe in the administration it might be different.

PSS I think the only way ND joins is if they go to a P-4 with only conference champions making the playoff, no need to rehash that, you don't think it will ever happen and I think it will, it's just a matter of when. We have discussed that many times, so I was trying to create different discussion.