Well said older Hokie!!! Our fans and fans from many other bases can be so unrealistic. Regardless of the competition we have played, objective people sees some improvement and if this team can improve every game, we will be proud of the end results. This team plays hard and with heart. Even when they are down, they do not quit. Obvious, not the stud or star laden teams we were accustomed to seeing in the early 2000 til about 2016, but give them another year. Heck, if we can somehow win the coastal this year which is mostly unlikely, but if; then, we will win the whole ACC title in the next three years I believe. Our rivalry, has a older team with more seniors and an experience exceptional QB and I still want rule out us beating them this year although I believe they have all of the advantages, IMHO !!!!!!