what I mean by that, is Seth was very good at building up a program to a certain point and playing the underdog card. He was never going to get past that point, which leaves his teams to be a bubble team, year in and year out. Could the team have gone to the Sweet 16? Sure, depends on the matchups when you get in, but to have a team win as consistently as Buzz's and be ranked Top 10? Never under Seth.