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Right now I would agree with you that the ACC is probably better off

with Notre Dame as a partial member. However, I am not sure the margin of difference between the 2 states of existence (if it could be quantified somehow) is as great as you may think given that Notre Dame football is not a member of the ACC.

The reason I say that is because if the ACC found itself in a situation where it had to decide between keeping the current arrangement with Notre Dame vs. risk losing Clemson, FSU, or maybe Miami, then I am not sure the ACC would always side with Notre Dame. Another "interesting" scenario the ACC could find itself in is whether it would be willing to sacrifice its current deal with Notre Dame in order to add just Texas and Oklahoma as full members. I am not sure the ACC would side with Notre Dame in that scenario.

In both scenarios above and all the previous ones I mentioned, Notre Dame does have an opportunity to save itself (aka preserve the current relationship) by finding a second non-football member that 75% of the current members would be willing to add. Honestly, I am not sure there are that many schools out there that fit that profile. Villanova is the only one that comes to mind and even that may be a "maybe" at best.

(In response to this post by TerryD)

Posted: 10/11/2018 at 12:18PM

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UCF should be an add to ACC -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/08/2018 2:23PM

ND deal really not hurting anyone... -- SoCloseHokie 10/10/2018 9:01PM

ND will lose to USC...they always find a way to poop the bed. -- VPIGUY 10/11/2018 3:15PM

If Notre Dame misses the Playoff, then they will be receive a NYD6 bid -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 5:54PM

ACC Champ is guaranteed a NYD6 bid -- gman86 10/16/2018 2:18PM

This website says otherwise -- VTHokie2000 10/16/2018 2:47PM

Pretty sure that is incorrect -- LaneRat 10/17/2018 5:02PM

If the ACC champion was guaranteed a NYD6 bowl bid -- VTHokie2000 10/17/2018 5:27PM

Pods ... -- SoCloseHokie 10/10/2018 9:10PM

Man, FSU would jump ship with that pod. That’s horrible. ** -- hokie-c 10/14/2018 11:30AM

OK, if ND convinces TX tomorrow & swap Canes for Clemson -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/10/2018 10:39PM

Rather have Clemson -- SoCloseHokie 10/11/2018 01:36AM

Clem’s son or canes... -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/11/2018 09:17AM

The problem is that FSU-Miami is a bigger rivalry -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 1:07PM

Should ND say they want more Forida access to join, then UCF would work. -- HOO86 10/09/2018 7:25PM

Point is ND wants, gets & doesn't followthru . -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/09/2018 9:46PM

Agree with message. But, what has ND not "followed through" with the ACC? -- TerryD 10/10/2018 07:06AM

Yes, you’re sort of correct -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/10/2018 4:01PM

If the ACC didn't want that, why did they agree to it. If they allowed ND -- reestuart 10/10/2018 5:10PM

The ACC is happy with the ND arrangement. -- HOO86 10/10/2018 6:14PM

Yeah, I think it's a nice arrangement. I would like the ACC to go to 9 -- reestuart 10/10/2018 6:52PM

I think that's what he's talking about. -- EDGEMAN 10/10/2018 08:41AM

But there is no "follow" to "fail to follow through" -- TerryD 10/10/2018 11:09AM

Just realized you are Domer... -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/10/2018 4:58PM

There is always talks going on ** -- SoCloseHokie 10/11/2018 01:54AM

But it Says... -- SoCloseHokie 10/11/2018 01:43AM

Does Notre Dame have enough money to pay any buyout clause the ACC built -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 02:59AM

As a lawyer, I know that all contracts are made to be broken -- TerryD 10/11/2018 07:13AM

I wasn't necessarily thinking that Notre Dame would be interested -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 09:51AM

Your scenario, while improbable, might result in a "no fault divorce" -- TerryD 10/11/2018 10:27AM

Does Notre Dame have any voting rights when it comes to football decisions? -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 11:14AM

My "improbable" comment refers to kicking ND out -- TerryD 10/11/2018 11:48AM

The expulsion rule reads 3/4 votes and 1 year notice. -- HOO86 10/11/2018 5:46PM

It is not ND's exception, it is the same exception for any independent -- TerryD 10/11/2018 5:49PM

Yep, see BYU. ** -- RJHokie 10/11/2018 6:51PM

BYU is probably not a good example since the West Coast Conference -- VTHokie2000 10/12/2018 1:30PM

Not entirely true. -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 6:06PM

Football is a required team to be an ACC member. -- HOO86 10/11/2018 6:08PM

Right now I would agree with you that the ACC is probably better off -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 12:18PM

I believe ND is a full member for voting purposes except on football -- RJHokie 10/11/2018 12:01PM

True dat ** -- SoCloseHokie 10/11/2018 03:19AM

Yeah, the ND deal has been good for both sides, IMO. ** -- reestuart 10/10/2018 08:02AM

Agreed. ** -- TerryD 10/10/2018 2:47PM

Notre Dame would like an academic school from Texas, both Texas and TCU fit -- Stech 10/09/2018 7:39PM

The ACC needs to settle on its regional strategy. -- HOO86 10/10/2018 5:31PM

While you make strong points, ND isn't in the east. Their in the ACC -- Stech 10/10/2018 7:41PM

Perceptually speaking, if the ACC has such a "good deal" with Notre Dame -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 03:04AM

Were you in Blacksburg this past weekend? That was ND effect that is worth -- Stech 10/11/2018 07:51AM

Regardless whether I was in Blacksburg or not this past weekend, -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 10:11AM

Too bad you missed it, it was amazing & the quantity & quality of recruits -- Stech 10/11/2018 12:03PM

I am not sad I missed it because familial responsibilities -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 12:28PM

"Perception" is nebulous and fairly worthless -- TerryD 10/11/2018 10:31AM

I believe you just contradicted yourself by citing Andy's article -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 10:44AM

Re-read it. I mention it for the benefits ND brought/brings to the ACC -- TerryD 10/11/2018 10:54AM

After dominating college football Miami and FSU were down and Clemson was -- Stech 10/11/2018 11:58AM

And I am saying that because Notre Dame joined as a non-football member -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 11:23AM

But it killed the poacher's dreams.... -- TerryD 10/11/2018 5:47PM

For now. The dream may just be in hibernation until the GOR expires. ** -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 5:52PM

Which Conference GOR are you talking about? ** -- Stech 10/11/2018 6:46PM

The ACC's GOR ** -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 8:37PM

That's a very long time...to much living in the ACC to do before that. -- Stech 10/12/2018 06:37AM

The Big Ten and SEC have no problem with waiting on the ACC. -- VTHokie2000 10/12/2018 09:03AM

Is it realistic to keep appeasing?? -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/09/2018 9:56PM

ND football is not joining a conference without a P4, champs only playoff.. -- TerryD 10/10/2018 07:05AM

Yep and nothing has a chance of happening until the B12 GOR expires. -- Stech 10/10/2018 7:45PM

Basically, ND would have to go undefeated to even get consideration over -- manassashoo 10/10/2018 07:59AM

Depends on what every other team's record is, but I generally agree. -- reestuart 10/10/2018 5:31PM

Should have been clearer. A 11-1 P5 champion. ** -- manassashoo 10/10/2018 5:38PM

Except no P5 champion will go 11-1 unless they only play -- VTHokie2000 10/11/2018 03:08AM

I think it would depend on who the P5 champion is because I could -- VTHokie2000 10/10/2018 12:59PM

ND is comfortable being an indy in this playoff setup -- TerryD 10/10/2018 10:57AM

Actually like many ND wins their in.... -- SoCloseHokie 10/11/2018 01:35AM

Thesis: Even if a one loss ND misses the playoffs -- TerryD 10/11/2018 10:34AM

If the ACC is going to add UCF, then who would be #16? -- VTHokie2000 10/09/2018 5:35PM

UCF gets weighted vote for #16... -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/09/2018 10:08PM

Assuming the UCF gets its way with #16, then how do you see a 16 member -- VTHokie2000 10/10/2018 1:18PM

We currently have 2X as many FL teams as any other P5 conference ** -- EDGEMAN 10/10/2018 08:43AM

If the ACC is determined to add 2 more members and it isn't going to add -- VTHokie2000 10/10/2018 1:14PM

I've come around on them -- Hamburger 10/09/2018 05:40AM

Big 12 learned that they wouldn’t get enough new network money to make -- GreencastleHokie 10/09/2018 7:11PM

Would you say that Swofford is a shrewd businessman? -- VTHokie2000 10/10/2018 1:06PM

Would rather kick out Louisville and call it a day ** -- CrystalCoveHokie 10/08/2018 8:16PM

Their sport budget -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/08/2018 9:32PM

Something like 1/4 of it is Yum Center money. -- reestuart 10/10/2018 03:31AM

Yep...hookers are expensive. ** -- EDGEMAN 10/09/2018 10:26AM

Profitable? -- 33laszlo99 10/08/2018 3:03PM

True, but it would give us 3 schools in Florida... -- Old Line Hokie 10/08/2018 9:54PM

I think yes Re UCF as a plus up from ‘today’ -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/08/2018 9:55PM

Would the Pac-12 be better off -- 33laszlo99 10/10/2018 11:39AM

Disney would have to underwrite UCF -- daveinop 10/08/2018 8:15PM

Maybe Disney would see -- HOKIEGOBBLE 10/08/2018 10:00PM

Not that far of a leap when you consider Oregon's original nickname -- VTHokie2000 10/09/2018 5:53PM

Agree. ** -- RJHokie 10/08/2018 4:46PM

Right now I would agree with you that the ACC is probably better off

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