And with conference network $, we can't use SEC/B1G as examples because they have football crazed fans with larger alumni bases. There just aren't the numbers in the ACC (no matter the 14) to pull $ comparable to B1G/ACC. I have seen Teel and others talk about negotiating point was poor in past because of on-field results but Clemson/FSU winning titles has little to do with what will actually be on the network. Maybe the biggest beef I have with ACC's vision is that they "expanded the footprint" because of the network then waited so long to do it. Granted, they needed to expand anyway or it could have crumbled. I think Swofford realized the money was not there to force cable/satellite companies to pay for the ACC Network and it's Pitt vs Syracuse football game of the week. From what an ESPN employee - and Duke grad - told me, we are only getting the network because of the contractual language/penalty.

People can critique decisions over the last 15 years, but as soon as tv money turned to football, the ACC was destined to fall behind football conferences in $.