of the reason the Ford loss hurt so much. He was going to be some kind of symbol that VT recruiting was turning the tide on the top in state kids going out of state - to programs like PSU, FSU and Clemson specifically.

But while we may be sick of the conversation re: top in state kids leaving, it's not particularly new as you pointed out. What is relatively new, is the way that VT is going into other states, North Carolina in a huge way, and taking the top talent. Our approach to recruiting is evolving. Also, so many of today's "in state" kids might not be from Virginia and many did not grow up with this deep passion for VT as they used to.