Georgia Tech preview and rostercard

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Georgia Tech comes into this football game with a 3-0 record, including a 2-0 mark in ACC play.  After crushing Elon 70-0 in the opening week, the Yellow Jackets beat Duke 38-14, and then came from behind to defeat North Carolina 28-20 in the rain last Saturday.

Obviously Georgia Tech is off to a good start in the ACC.  A home win over Virginia Tech would put them in a strong position in the Coastal Division race.  The next two weeks will tell the tale of their season.  They host the Hokies on Thursday night, and then travel to Miami on October 5.  If the Jackets can manage to win both of those games, they will most likely coast to the ACC Championship Game.

At this point, we all know about the Georgia Tech triple option and how it’s run.  Let’s focus on the personnel that Paul Johnson has to work with this season.

The Playmakers

Georgia Tech starts one B-back (a fullback) and two A-backs (wingbacks).  They also start two wide receivers on the outside.  Here are the guys the Hokies will have to worry about on Thursday night.

BB David Sims (6-0, 225, r-Sr.): Sims is a big, physical runner who has 211 yards and is averaging 5.6 yards per carry this season.  Quarterback Vad Lee has 58 carries, Sims has 38, and nobody else has more than 14.  Sims is in his third season as Georgia Tech’s starting B-Back.

BB Zach Laskey (6-1, 214, Jr.): Laskey has 13 carries for 93 yards and a touchdown through three games.

BB Broderick Snoddy (5-9, 190, r-So.): Snoddy has 11 carries for 74 yards.

Those B-backs will likely be the primary focus of defensive tackles Derrick Hopkins and Luther Maddy, as well as mike linebacker Jack Tyler.

The Yellow Jackets rely on a number of different A-backs, with their most successful being Robert Godhigh.

AB Robert Godhigh (5-7, 190, r-Sr.): Godhigh isn’t tall obviously, but he is an explosive open field runner.  He has 14 carries for 174 yards.  That’s a 12.4 yards per carry average.

AB B.J. Bostic (5-11, 173, r-Jr.): 9 carries, 54 yards.

AB Dennis Andrews (6-0, 190, r-Fr.): 9 carries, 67 yards

AB Tony Zenon (5-8, 175, r-Jr.): 7 carries, 26 yards

AB Synjin Days (6-2, 221, r-Jr.): 8 carries, 22 yards

AB Charles Perkins (6-0, 218, r-Jr.): 3 carries, 32 yards

Here’s how the rushing game shakes out between Vad Lee, his top B-backs and his top A-backs.

Lee: 52 carries, 180 yards, 3.5 ypc, 3 TD
B-backs:  62 carries, 378 yards, 6.1 ypc, 4 TD
A-backs: 46 carries, 379 yards, 8.2 ypc, 1 TD

Georgia Tech’s big plays are usually generated from their A-backs.  Their wide receivers are trained to take defensive backs off their feet, which can lead to big plays on the outside.

Here’s how the Yellow Jacket carries broke down against Virginia Tech last season.

QB: 19 carries, 63 yards, 3.3 ypc
BB: 21 carries, 70 yards, 3.3 ypc
AB: 16 carries, 59 yards, 3.7 ypc

The VT defense did a great job in all phases of the game, and in particular they shut down the B-back dive up the middle.  Georgia Tech got a 22 yard run from Tevin Washington, a 13 yard run from B.J. Bostic and a 12 yard run from Robert Godhigh, but for the most part the Hokies did a great job of stopping the big play.

The Hokies will also have to stop a Georgia Tech passing game that has been pretty good so far.  “Bad” Vad Lee (6-1, 215, r-So.) is 22-of-39 (56.4%) for 418 yards, with seven touchdowns and one interception on the season.  Here are his numbers in each individual game:

Elon: 7-of-11 for 189 yards, 2 TD and 0 INT
Duke: 8-of-16 for 125 yards, 4 TD and 1 INT
UNC: 7-of-12 for 104 yards, 1 TD and 0 INT

DeAndre Smelter (6-3, 220, Jr.) has been Georgia Tech’s top wideout thus far.  He has six catches for 100 yards and two touchdowns.  Smelter went to Georgia Tech on a baseball scholarship as a pitcher, but switched to football after going through some arm issues that limited him on the mound.

The Yellow Jackets like to run a lot of wheel routes with their A-backs.  Although they don’t throw the ball much at all, they do rely on the passing game as a source of big plays.  They are averaging 19 yards per completion this season, with seven of those 22 completions going for touchdowns.

A veteran offensive line

Paul Johnson’s offense is unorthodox, and having a group of very experienced offensive linemen certainly gives him an even greater advantage.

LT Ray Beno (6-2, 295, r-Sr.): Beno is in his third year starting along the offensive line.

LG Will Jackson (6-3, 295, r-Sr.): Jackson is an All-ACC lineman who has been starting since his r-freshman season.

C Jay Finch (6-3, 285, r-Sr.): Finch is in his third season as a starter, and he was an Honorable Mention All-ACC player last year.

RG Shaquille Mason (6-1, 305, Jr.): Mason started 12 games as a sophomore last season, and once as a freshman in 2011.

RT Bryan Chamberlain (6-4, 290, r-So.): The least experienced of Georgia Tech’s offensive linemen, Chamberlain did play some in 2012 and he made one start as well.

These guys are used to playing next to each other.  They have a great understanding of the Georgia Tech offense, and they’ll be one of the biggest challenges of the season for the Virginia Tech defense.

The VT defense vs. the GT offense, historically

Virginia Tech has taken on the Paul Johnson offense five times.  Here are the numbers for each season:

2008: 278 rushing yards, 5.6 ypc, 109 passing yards, 387 total yards
2009: 309 rushing yards, 4.9 ypc, 51 passing yards, 360 total yards
2010: 346 rushing yards, 6.8 ypc, 80 passing yards, 426 total yards
2011: 243 rushing yards, 5.0 ypc, 97 passing yards, 340 total yards
2012: 192 rushing yards, 3.5 ypc, 96 passing yards, 288 total yards

As the years have gone by, we’ve seen Bud Foster become steadily more acclimated to the Georgia Tech offense.  In 2011, the Jackets averaged 316.5 rushing yards, 5.6 yards per carry and 458.8 total yards, and the Hokies held them to well below those numbers.  In 2012, they averaged 311.2 rushing yards, 5.4 yards per carry and 441.1 total yards, and yet again Bud’s crew limited them to a lot less.

Why is that?  Obviously Foster has adjusted to the offense, but I also think the Hokies have increased their talent level on the current defense.  Guys like James Gayle, J.R. Collins, Derrick Hopkins, Jack Tyler, Tariq Edwards, Kyle Fuller and Kyshoen Jarrett are excellent players, and they simply have more talent than the defenses the Hokies put on the field from 2008 through 2010.

On the other side of the ball, Virginia Tech starts four freshmen on offense, or five if you count Kalvin Cline.  In this game those freshmen are going to be facing an ACC defense that features six senior starters, along with a couple of juniors.  I have a feeling that the VT defense needs to have another effort like 2012.

Grohless defense takes a step forward

With no more Al Groh as defensive coordinator, the Georgia Tech defense is much improved in 2013.  Ted Roof (former head coach at Duke) took over in the offseason, and he switched the Jackets back to a 4-3.  Al Groh has ridden off into the sunset, and the Virginia Tech football program is without one guaranteed win a year with him gone from coaching.

Defense hasn’t been a strong suit at Georgia Tech since Paul Johnson and his triple option arrived.  As difficult as it is for other teams to prepare for that spread option, it’s equally as hard for the GT defense to prepare for regular offenses after they’ve faced so much triple option in the spring and in August.  However, this year’s defense is putting up good numbers so far.

Rushing: #22
Passing: #21
Total: #11
Scoring: #12
Pass efficiency D: #18
Third down defense: #33
Redzone defense: #15

Those are good numbers across the board.  They’ve yet to face a good, balanced offense yet this season, but let’s be honest … they aren’t going to face one on Thursday night either.

Georgia Tech’s success on defense begins with their experience up front.  The Yellow Jackets start three seniors on the defensive line.

DE Jeremiah Attaoachu (6-3, 242, Sr.): Attoachu is a Preseason First Team All-ACC player.  He had 10 sacks a year ago, and he can make life very difficult for offensive tackles.  Jonathan McLaughlin and Brent Benedict are not good matchups for Attaoachu.  Though Attaoachu is banged up and has missed practice time this week, he’s expected to play on Thursday.

DT Euclid Cummings (6-4, 275, r-Sr.): Cummings has been in the playing rotation for the past two seasons.  He’s been active up front for the Yellow Jackets so far this year.

DT Adam Gotsis (6-5, 277, So.): Gotsis is in his first year as a starting defensive tackle after playing 12 games as a true freshman last year.  He is a native of Australia.  He has been Georgia Tech’s top playmaker at defensive tackle, recording three TFL and a sack.

DE Emmanuel Dieke (6-6, 270, r-Sr.): Dieke started 12 games for Georgia Tech in 2012.  He is purely a gap control defensive lineman.  He has never shown an ability to make plays in the backfield.  He has no TFL this year, and had just 2.5 a year ago.

Georgia Tech’s defensive line isn’t as gifted or as deep as Virginia Tech’s, but they do have experience, and Attaoachu is very dangerous coming off the edge.  The Hokies will have to account for him all night.

At linebacker, the Yellow Jackets have three returning starters who are all capable of making plays.

SAM Brandon Watts (6-2, 235, r-Sr.): Watts had 8.5 TFL a year ago, and so far in 2013 he is leading the team with 19 tackles.

ILB Jabari Hunt-Days (6-3, 247, r-So.): Hunt-Days was a freshman All-American last season when he led all Georgia Tech linebackers in tackles with 84.  He has great size, and he looks like a 4-year starter for the Yellow Jackets.

WILL Quayshawn Nealy (6-1, 232, r-Jr.): Nealy has started since he was a r-freshman, and he’s the most experienced linebacker on this Georgia Tech team.

Nealy came up lame against North Carolina, and he is listed as questionable for Thursday night’s game.  He has not practiced so far this week, despite the fact that Georgia Tech is not holding contact drills.  If he can’t go, true freshman Paul Davis (5-11, 215, Fr.) is listed as the backup, though it’s certainly possible that Ted Roof could move one of his more experienced backups into the starting lineup, such as Daniel Drummond (6-3, 245, r-Sr.) or Tyler Marcordes (6-4, 232, r-So.)

Both of Georgia Tech’s safeties were also injured against North Carolina.  Free safety Jamal Golden (6-0, 189, Jr.) is expected to play, whereas strong safety Chris Milton (5-11, 185, r-So.) is highly questionable.  Golden is an excellent athlete, and he finished in the top 10 nationally in both kickoff returns and punt returns last season.  However, if he’s banged up, there’s a chance that Paul Johnson will take him off special teams on Thursday night.

If Milton can’t go, Desmond Smith (6-0, 185, r-So.) will get the start.  His experience level is basically the same as Milton’s, so I wouldn’t expect there to be a huge drop off.

Georgia Tech’s defense features a couple of seniors at cornerback.  Louis Young (6-1, 196, Sr.) was a highly-touted recruit who was recruited by Virginia Tech.  He has made an impact in the Georgia Tech secondary since he was a true freshman.  Jemea Thomas (5-10, 195, r-Sr.) is an All-ACC candidate who had four interceptions a year ago.  He has a lot of experience at both safety and corner.

This Yellow Jacket defense is banged up.  Four of their 11 starters have missed practice this week, though two are expected to play on Thursday night, and overall I think their injuries will have a minimal impact.

This defense doesn’t feature a ton of playmakers.  The Jackets have just 12 TFL and four sacks through three games.  The Hokies had 12 TFL and four sacks as well … in one game, against Alabama.  Throw in 11 TFL and seven sacks against ECU, and the VT defense just has a lot more playmakers than the GT defense.

However, that experience level for Georgia Tech makes this a very disciplined defense.  They aren’t going to make very many mistakes against the Hokies.  When they do, the VT offense has to capitalize.

Special Teams

Jamal Golden could be a big factor in this game, if he plays, and if the Jackets let him return kicks.  Last season he averaged 14.59 yards per punt return, and 28.25 yards per kickoff return, both of which ranked in the top 10 nationally.  He is a very dangerous returner, and the Hokies will have to be on their guard if he’s returning kicks on Thursday night.

The Virginia Tech defense needs to hold the Yellow Jacket offense to field goal attempts, because the Jackets have a true freshman kicker.  Harrison Butker (6-3, 190, Fr.) is just 1-of-3 on the season, though his one make came from 49 yards.  One of his two misses was blocked.  There’s simply not enough information on Butker to tell whether or not he’s a good kicker, so he should be considered a question mark until he proves otherwise.

Sean Poole (6-1, 160, r-Sr.) is Georgia Tech’s senior punter.  He’s a solid and experienced guy, and although he’s only had to punt seven times in three games, he’s averaging 48.3 yards per punt.

Final Thoughts

Here’s a sobering thought.  For much of the game, Virginia Tech will have five freshmen on the field on offense to oppose a defense that features six senior starters.  Five freshmen vs. six seniors … well, we know how that will probably go.  It might be one thing if they were all 4-star and 5-star freshmen, but that’s not the case.

LT Jonathan McLaughlin: 3-stars with offers from VT, UVA and ECU
WR Joshua Stanford: 3-stars with offers from VT, UCLA, Middle Tennessee State, TCU
RB Trey Edmunds: 4-stars with offers from VT, UNC, Maryland, and other regional schools
FB Sam Rogers: walk-on with no offers
TE Kalvin Cline: 2-stars with a VT offer, 1-AA offers, and a walk-on offer from Miami

I like the potential of each one of those guys, but let’s face it: if McLaughlin, Rogers and Cline were playing for a program whose offense hadn’t been run completely into the ground, they would all be redshirting, most likely.  Unfortunately they were all thrown right into the fire, and now they are going to have to score points against a senior-laden, well-coached ACC defense on Thursday night.

The VT offense – freshmen and all – must take advantage of their limited opportunities against Georgia Tech.  The Yellow Jackets will run a lot of clock because of their running game, and as a result the Hokies’ chances on offense will be limited.  Against North Carolina, Georgia Tech held the ball for a little over 40 minutes.

North Carolina had the ball for 10 possessions against Georgia Tech, and that includes running out the clock at the end of the first half, so it was only nine real possessions.  Let’s assume for a moment that Virginia Tech gets nine possessions.  In each of their first four games, the Hokies have gone three-and-out on their first drive.  If they do that against Georgia Tech, they’ll only have eight remaining possessions.  Logan Thomas is averaging 1.5 interceptions per game.  If he throws one against GT, that will take the Hokies down to seven real possessions.  If he throws two, it will limit them to six real possessions.

Can the Tech offense score enough to win in those six possessions?  They only scored five combined touchdowns against ECU and Marshall, so it’s going to be tough sledding, and in this game they need touchdowns, not a bunch of field goals.  If they go down the field and score on their first drive, or Logan Thomas doesn’t throw any interceptions, then their chances of scoring enough points goes up obviously, but neither of those things has happened this year, so I’m not counting on them happening on Thursday night.

I think the defense will play well, but I’m not holding out hope for the offense.  They are just too young.

Chris’ Prediction: Georgia Tech 20, Virginia Tech 7

Will Stewart’s Take: Up until a few days ago, I was marking this one in the definite-loss column. Now I’m not so sure.

Number one, the Hokies have been doing some prep in past weeks, however limited that may be, for Georgia Tech, so that’s good. I also DVR’d GT’s win over UNC last Saturday, and upon watching it, was unimpressed by the Jackets. (I was also unimpressed by UNC, but I’ll save that for later.)

Josh Nesbitt, Jonathan Dwyer, and Demaryius Thomas don’t live here anymore. Their current versions — Vad Lee, Robert Godhigh, and DeAndre Smelter — are good, but not in that class. Vad Lee is a better passer, more accurate with a stronger arm than Nesbitt, but Virginia Tech’s defensive backs will present challenges in coverage that UNC’s didn’t.

Just go to the 55-second point of this video and watch the “coverage” by UNC on the touchdown pass — Kendall Fuller and Brandon Facyson won’t do … this:

Vad Lee also didn’t strike me as being as strong running the ball as Nesbitt, even though they’re very similar in size.

The Jackets don’t have a B-back like Dwyer (Godhigh is an A-back), and Smelter, though talented, is raw and still learning the position.

So I think the Hokie defense can handle the Jacket offense. But “handle” means Georgia Tech will still score at least 17 points on the Hokies, which is what they’ve historically done. In five games against the Hokies, Paul Johnson’s offense has put up 17, 28, 21, 26 and 17 points.

So the Hokie offense needs to score at least 17 on Georgia Tech, probably more, or special teams/defense is going to have to contribute. And that’s where things get dicey.

The Hokie offense has scored 10, 13, and 14 points in regulation against Division 1-A teams this season. They haven’t shown us anything yet this season to indicated that they’re ready to put up 20+ points, on the road, against the #11 defense in the country.

It’s really not more complicated than that. Put aside the talk of five days rest, Paul Johnson’s spread option attack, and all that. Based on what we’ve seen so far this season from Virginia Tech’s offense, and historically from PJ’s offense (even when the Hokies defend it well), the Hokies aren’t going to win this one. Not unless the Virginia Tech offense takes a big step forward, or special teams or defense do something extraordinary to throw the game out of whack in Virginia Tech’s favor.

Will’s Prediction: Georgia Tech 20, Virginia Tech 13

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  1. Just got home from the game. Not alot of HOKIES there but it didn’t matter. What did I tell everyone. Opponents (especially GT) need to outplay our Defense to beat us. With our defense playing at the level they are right now…….EVERYthing will be just fine.

  2. Both Will and Chris say we lose? Can’t we at least get someone to make a homer pick of a VT upset? Unless you’re attempting a reverse mojo in which case I applaud your efforts …

  3. A lot of positive predictions in this thread rely on ‘hope.’ The reason Chris and Will predicted what they did is because what they’ve seen in both teams, not what they hope they see tonight.

    Two weeks ago I had this as a win, then I watched our O vs ECU and Marshall. If that offense shows up tonight, GT will curb stomp us. If we start executing properly, we can win.

  4. I predict our moribund offense will show some life, and we get a monster defensive performance against the GT offense, and we get either a defensive or special teams TD (or setup of one). Hokies 27, Jackets 13.

  5. I think GT gets it into the 30’s. Not because our defense plays poorly but all the 3 and outs our offense will turn into tonight will simply wear them out and most of the scoring will be in the 4th quarter. While close, Bud isn’t God.

  6. If VT scores defensive touchbowns, we win.

    if GT kikoff and punt returns score touchbowns, they win.

    VT defense will be tougher than anyone thinks and will limit GTto no more than two touchdowns.

    GT defense seems solid but hurt. I think VT gets two offensive touchdowns.

    VT offense might show up if Byrn and Meyer have at least three catches each.

    Given all the maybes, i think predicting this games outcome comes down to a few simple stats:

    If VT possesses the ball for NLT 28m, they win.

    If Cody Juornell, kicks two FGs, they win.

  7. I’ve analyzed all the analyses, extracted all the emotionales, called Dr. Spock and arrived at the exact score: VT 8, GT 4. Starting pitchers won’t get past the fifth inning. You may use this for the pari-mutuals. You’re welcome!

  8. Hey Chris;

    How many is “a bunch of field goals”? If a “bunch” is a dozen, I’ll take it. I’m not real sure the Hokies can make two in one game this season. The wreck a TD favorite in ATL….odds makers are giving the Hokies more credit (or GT less) than your prediction.
    Perhaps the Hokie Stone helmets will bring some luck.
    Go Hokies!

  9. All the factors are trending poorly for us in this game:
    – road game
    – short week to prepare for triple option
    – GT finally appears to have a competent defense
    – our offense struggled even against subpar competition thus far
    – gotta figure we are gassed after three OTs only a few days ago
    – we’re going with several true freshmen on O
    – GT is a senior-laden defense

    And, finally, the biggest advantage the Jackets have: NO Al Groan.

    I’m guessing Jackets 24 Hokies 3. Hope I’m wrong, but I have a real bad feeling on this one.

  10. Hard to disagree with your reasoning that the performance of the offense so far doesn’t give us much confidence that Tech will have enough bullets in the gun to win this game.
    But are we a poor offense or just a young offense? Things might look a lot different with JC Coleman back and as a few freshman receivers begin to gain confidence.
    Coleman is a much more versatile back than Edmunds who could give us a receiver out the backfield that we have lacked thus far. Stanford and Willie Byrn have become solid contributors, and I believe it is just a matter of time before Kalvin Cline makes a big impact. He was a real diamond late in the recruiting process with a huge upside. A healthy Charley Meyer might factor in as well. Knowles looks like he starting to get it . Mangus too.
    We may not be as mediocre as we have looked early this season. The offense is working with youthful players in a new system and there may be more weapons than it has appeared. It would be unrealistic to think the talent on this offense has hit its ceiling with the all the youth and system changes.
    I dont think this point has been clearly made. We may see a more potent group sooner than we think.

    1. Knowles is starting to get what? He drops everything that comes his way. I’m glad we still have some fans that are PATT but in my opinion you have lost touch with reality. None of those guys other than Edmunds has really done much of anything so far so to count on it or expect it in this game is just foolish. To blame that all on youth and a new system is inaccurate in my opinion as well. Most of the guys you mentioned didn’t show elite playmaking ability in high school so to all of a sudden expect it to appear in their 4th college game, on the road, against a vastly improved defense is simply unrealistic.

      Here’s hoping I’m wrong.

  11. OMG,we’ll lose James Gayle, J.R. Collins, Derrick Hopkins, Jack Tyler, Tariq Edwards, Kyle Fuller next year, can’t believe it!

  12. “The Hokie offense has scored 10, 13, and 14 points”

    Well, we also missed around 5 VERY MAKABLE FG’s and an extra point – went for it a couple of times when we could have hit FGs. We can score 20 on this defense. Just need someone that can get it through the upright at 30 yards out.

  13. You guys are waaaaay to kind to GT. Their stats should be totally thrown out versus Elon- a good hs team would easily beat them.Vad Lee is our key on offense to defend. He is young and brash and a good Jack Tyler early decapitation hit may push him over the edge. He is a bit soft and will turn the ball over many times. We should hold them to 17. Dont kid yourse3lf about UNC-this is NOT the same UNC offense as last year. They are bad and Gio has graduated as the best back in the NCAA last year.Renner had poor throws all last Saturday in the 2nd half as the rain really effected him.They rank #82 in total offense-and that includes a game against Middle Tennessee.

    The GT defense has not improved that much? How would we know otherwise? VT should be able to mix the run and pass and get big yardage. The Thug Attachou will play injured and his best shot at stopping Logan is to take another swing at him!! He is a guy who belongs in the SEC for character issues…they also will have 2 safeties who either wont play or will play injured

    We desperately need JC Coleman in this game. Time for him to man up from ankle sprains from August and go for 20 plus carries-if he has a good night or Edmunds goes for over 100 plus-we win!!

  14. Wow that was a horrible call / replay review on the GT fumble. UNC got robbed by some bad ACC officiating.

  15. I think turnovers are the key. If we can avoid turning the ball over, and help our own time of possession, we stand a good chance to win.

    I’m going to concede the special teams battle to GT right now. Our special teams NEVER show up for big games, so just go ahead and spot them 10 points for that off the bat.

  16. I`m still wondering if Loeffler will use the GT game to move beyond a vanilla offense and use some new formations and plays. A healthy JC Coleman may give him some new options.

    1. It’s time to resort to trick plays….I am not kidding…..we don’t have the horses to just drive it down the field…..

      1. Dont “say” this too loud…..Frank could be “listening”. We dont want Frank getting out of whack and not trusting his game plan, his kicker or his Defense. In Big Key games, Coach (or his Offensive Staff) can tend to gamble, take chances, and do odd things that are counter to their M.O. (often ending in VT mistakes) when often we needed to just play straight-up football. I want to walk away from this game at least feeling like the outcome wasn’t due to VT Coach decisions but a result of the play on the field. VT has been known to get out of whack, get too cute, and outcoach ourselves instead of outcoaching the opponent on the other side. I hope tonight is not one of those nights. Johnson is an offensive wizard but Truth is Bud has owned Johnson and Johnson hates it with fire. Johnson’s offensive-opportunities is predicated on his opponent’s defensive-productivity (or lack their of). The pressure is on Johnson to figure out how to get just cute enough to beat Tech’s Defense with the home-crowd watching. Some teams just have the other team’s number-Bud has Johnson’s. We need to come in like #1 Alabama and just Play our game, Play within our identify, Play ahead of the sticks, and EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE.

        1. What did i tell you Hubman. EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE. Our defense is playing at too high of a level right now. EVERYthing will be just fine.

    2. New plays and/or formations won’t help if we’re still sailing a throw, or dropping a pass, or missing a block, or not hitting the right hole, etc.

    1. I don’t know … I NEVER bet, so I don’t really have the thought process for it.

      What you’re really asking me is, “Your game prediction has GT winning by 7. Do you think it’s more likely that VT will lose by more than that, or less than that?”

      Well, hell, I don’t know … I picked 20-13 because I think VT will lose by about 7. Beyond that, I don’t have a thought process.

      1. Nice reply! You already gave your prediction, why is he asking for another one. If Hubman respects your opinion that much then he should trust your prediction and bet the UNDER 42 since both you and Chris are predicting a low scoring game.

        We know the Hokies will do our part (on offense and defense) to keep the under in play the whole game.

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