Game Preview: Virginia Tech Travels To Tobacco Road To Face UNC

Virginia Tech - North Carolina 2021
Virginia Tech unloaded on No. 10 UNC in the season opener in 2021, beating the Tar Heels 17-10. (Ivan Morozov)

Virginia Tech (2-2, 1-0) and North Carolina (3-1, 0-0) are both coming off home losses in which they were beaten soundly. The Hokies lost 33-10 to border rival West Virginia on Thursday night, while the Tar Heels fell to Notre Dame 45-32 in a game that wasn’t as close as the final score indicated.

North Carolina does some things well on both sides of the ball, but there are also a couple of things that they do poorly. First and foremost, they have a tendency to get lost in coverage on defense and give up chunk yardage. Secondly, their run blocking has a ways to go before it catches up to the rest of the offense. However, they possess arguably the most explosive group of wide receivers the Hokies will face this season, and they are getting healthy just as Virginia Tech is about to come to town.

We’ll talk about those things, and a lot more, in this week’s game preview.

Drake Maye: Did North Carolina Get Better At Quarterback?

Previous UNC quarterback Sam Howell got a lot of hype during his career, though he ended up slipping to the fifth round of the NFL Draft. His replacement is Drake Maye (6-5, 220, r-Fr.), who is off to a fantastic start in his college career. Whatever struggles the Tar Heels have had at times this year haven’t been the fault of Maye. Here are his numbers…

Comp: 89
Att: 129
Pct: 68.9%
Yards: 1,231
TD: 16
INT: 1

Drake Maye North Carolina
(UNC Athletics Photography)

Maye is also a good runner (39 carries, 182 yards, 4.7 ypc) which is something the Hokies haven’t seen at the quarterback position so far this season.

Even though Carolina’s offense stalled at times against its most significant defensive challenge of the season last week, Maye still threw for 301 yards and five touchdowns with no picks. However, some of those yards came late after the game had already been decided, and his completion percentage was down compared to his first three games.

Things didn’t go as smoothly for Maye against Notre Dame after he had dominated three less talented defenses (FAMU, Appalachian State and Georgia State). The Virginia Tech defense is a lot closer to Notre Dame than those others, though perhaps not on the same level as the Irish. It’s imperative that Maye is challenged in this game.

The Hokies will have to be careful. Though Maye’s completion percentage drops to just 48.8% when pressured, he has a very good big-time throw rate of 14.0% in those situations, which amazingly is better than his big-time throw rate when kept clean (5.2%).

Extremely Talented Wideouts

North Carolina has a whole host of wide receivers who will give Virginia Tech problems. That’s complicated by the fact that Tech safety Jalen Stroman will miss the first half due to targeting. Normally, the Hokies bring Stroman in at safety in nickel packages and move Chamarri Conner down to the nickel spot. It remains to be seen what they’ll do in the first half with Stroman out, though Brent Pry told the media on Tuesday that Stroman’s absence “puts a little more onus” on Ny’Quee Hawkins and DJ Harvey.

We also don’t know the status for Dorian Strong on Saturday. He missed the second half of the West Virginia game with a hand injury. My best guess is that he’ll play against North Carolina, and Pry said he is hopeful Strong will play, though it could be a decision that goes all the way up to Friday. 

Unfortunately for the Hokies, UNC seems to be getting healthy at wide receiver just as soon as Tech is down a player or two in the secondary. Though he wasn’t 100%, Josh Downs returned against Notre Dame after missing the previous two games due to injury. Andre Greene also returned from injury to play in his first game of the season against the Irish and had a big impact, catching three passes for 150 yards and two touchdowns. Downs has 14 catches for 110 yards and four touchdowns in two games this year.

JJ Jones North Carolina
J.J. Jones has nine catches for 171 yards this year. (UNC Athletics Photography)

Both of those guys are starters, which shows that Maye is quite good to be so effective despite missing his top two weapons. It also shows the type of depth that the Tar Heels have built on offense. Redshirt freshman slot receiver Gavin Blackwell stepped up, along with wideouts Kobe Paysour and J.J. Jones, as did tight ends Kamari Morales and Bryson Nesbit.

Downs in particular is a guy who should break out soon, once he gets 100% healthy. He caught 101 passes for 1,335 yards (13.2 ypc) and eight touchdowns last season, proving to be one of the best receivers in college football. He was one of the few UNC offensive players to perform well in Lane Stadium last season, catching eight passes for 123 yards and a touchdown.

Downs nearly always lines up in the slot, which means that Brent Pry will have to think really hard about who he wants to use at nickel this week with Stroman out for the first half. Chamarri Conner struggled against Downs last year, and he’s had similar success against all UNC slots in the past, so perhaps Pry keeps Conner back at safety and inserts a more traditional cornerback at nickel like as Brion Murray.

Running Game Struggles?

On paper, UNC’s running game looks pretty good. The Tar Heels average 194.5 yards per game on the ground, and 5.3 yards per carry. However, how much of that is due to the competition?

FAMU: 40 carries, 314 yards, 7.9 ypc
App State: 35 carries, 215 yards, 6.1 ypc (including a 71-yard run)
GA State: 44 carries, 183 yards, 4.2 ypc
Notre Dame: 28 carries, 66 yards, 2.5 ypc

Carolina’s yards per carry have dropped each successive week. No running back has been dominant, and four guys have played. In the most recent game against Notre Dame, UNC used three backs (one of which ran for 28 yards, and the other two combined for -1). Here are the season stats for the three they used against the Irish…

Omarion Hampton: 48 carries, 256  yards, 5.3 ypc, 5 TDs
George Pettaway: 17 carries, 85 yards, 5.0 ypc, 2 TDs
Caleb Hood: 12 carries, 99 yards (71 on one play), 8.3 ypc

Hampton should be the primary ball-carrier against Virginia Tech, and it remains to be seen how many carries Hood and Pettaway will get. Personally, I’m more concerned with Maye’s running ability than the two backup running backs.

The other thing to consider is that the UNC offense ranks only No. 50 out of 65 Power 5 teams in run blocking, per Pro Football Focus (PFF). There is some solid experience up front for Carolina, though those guys have always shown to be mediocre run blockers, and they don’t appear to have progressed this season.

Overall, I think UNC will challenge Virginia Tech less in the running game than West Virginia, but they’ll challenge the Hokies more in the passing game.

Power Echols Tony Grimes UNC football
Power Echols (23) and Tony Grimes (1) (UNC Athletics Photography)

UNC’s Coverage Nightmare

Recruiting vs. coaching. Fans on internet message boards have that debate every year. What is most important? Ideally, a coach is really good at both, but most of the time that’s not the case. So what do you favor? You guys know that I always lean towards coaching. In some cases, Mack Brown seems to favor recruiting. UNC cornerbacks coach Dre Bly, while showing the ability to attract top talent to Chapel Hill (much of it from the 757), has not shown an ability to develop his players. In fact, they have steadily gotten worse.

Both Storm Duck and Tony Grimes drew very good reviews as freshmen at North Carolina but both have steadily regressed throughout their careers. Grimes, if you recall, was a 5-star recruit from Virginia Beach. He was actually a bit better against Notre Dame, though he sort of marred that improved performance by punching an Irish player in the helmet in a fit of frustration and drawing a 15-yard penalty.

Here are the year-by-year PFF grades for Duck and Grimes. Here’s Duck first…

And now Grimes…

That’s steady regression from two guys who were good as freshmen and are playing the same position.

Cam’Ron Kelly, another former highly-touted recruit from the 757, starts as safety for UNC. He’s not coached by Bly, and he hasn’t regressed during his career. Instead, he’s played mediocre football throughout his 1,393 career snaps, and his ability to cover has always been questionable.

The sad part for the UNC defense is that Kelly has arguably been the best safety this year, which says a lot. Fellow safety Giovanni Biggers has struggled as well. Though his grades don’t necessarily reflect it, I think Grimes is the best cover guy out of those four players, and the numbers indicate that Tech would be better served by attacking Duck. Here are Duck’s pass defense numbers this year…

Targets: 31
Completions: 23
Yards: 274
Yard per catch: 11.9

UNC’s best player in the secondary has been DeAndre Boykins (6-1, 195, So.). He plays slot corner, and he’s been the most consistent player on the back end for the Tar Heels against both the run and the pass.

Notre Dame receivers and tight ends were running wide open on numerous occasions on Saturday. Overall, the UNC defense ranks almost dead last in coverage grade among Power 5 teams  (63 out of 65) according to Pro Football Focus. Only Indiana and Colorado are worse.

At one point during the UNC-ND broadcast on Saturday, the sideline reporter broke in to say that there were clipboards being thrown on the UNC sideline and fingers being pointed amongst defensive players, and that the coaches had to come over and tell the players to “stop being selfish.” If that’s an accurate report, that paints a very bad picture, and it would also help explain why the Tar Heels have been so poor in coverage this season. Good, quality coverage requires trust and unselfish play, and there doesn’t appear to be a lot of that going on for UNC right now.

Desmond Evans UNC Football
Defensive end Desmond Evans (UNC Athletics Photography)

UNC’s Rush Defense

A opening-game dominant effort against an FCS team (FAMU) with 20+ players out padded UNC’s run defense numbers, but here’s what has happened to them over the last three weeks…

App State: 43 carries, 288 yards, 6.7 ypc
GA State: 54 carries, 235 yards, 4.4 ypc
Notre Dame: 51 carries, 287 yards, 5.6 ypc

Opposing offenses have pounded the UNC defense with the run for a couple of reasons. First, they’ve had trouble stopping it. Second, it’s a smart idea to try and keep the clock moving because the Tar Heel offense is capable of putting up a lot of points.

Meanwhile, here are Virginia Tech’s game-by-game rushing numbers…

ODU: 39 carries, 136 yards, 3.5 ypc
BC: 45 carries, 144 yards, 3.2 ypc
Wofford: 41 carries, 133 yards, 3.2 ypc
WVU: 18 carries, 35 yards, 1.9 ypc

The Hokies have failed to average more than 3.5 yards per carry against anybody this year, and 93 of their 136 yards against ODU came after contact on borderline Superman plays by Keshawn King. There hasn’t been much blocking there. So who will have the edge? The rush defense who hasn’t stopped anybody or the rushing offense who hasn’t blocked anybody? That will be one of the things that decides the game.

Carolina’s best defenders are at linebacker, though they have been inconsistent. They’ll play great on three or four plays before getting gashed for a big gain on the next. UVA transfer Noah Taylor has been solid for the Tar Heels so far. He plays their Jack position, which is a quasi-defensive end/outside linebacker, though defensive end is probably the best way to describe him. Taylor is tied for the team lead in tackles for loss (four) and is the outright leader sacks (2.5). He’s been consistent against both the run and the pass, though UNC doesn’t drop him into coverage very often.

Defensive end Kaimon Rucker is the high grader for the defense, and he has four tackles for loss and two sacks. However, he’s started only one of UNC’s four games, and he didn’t play well last week against Notre Dame.

The best linebacker is Cedric Gray, who plays the Will spot. Middle linebacker Powers Echols has struggled against the running game. RaRa Dillworth (6-1, 200, So.) will also get some time at linebacker, though he’s entirely too small for the position despite being ranked the No. 103 player in the country coming out of high school. He has graded out at 39.9 against the run this year, which is one of the worst marks you’ll see for a linebacker. When he’s in the game, Tech should run the football, though his snaps were limited to just seven last week against the Irish.

Notre Dame UNC football
(Notre Dame Athletics Photography)

Chunk Yardage Allowed

The North Carolina defense will look good on three or four consecutive snaps but then they’ll give up a big play that changes the course of a drive. The Tar Heels are one of the worst units in the country when it comes to giving up 20+ yard plays.

Overall 20+ yard plays allowed: 26, No. 123 nationally
Rushing 20+ yard plays allowed: 6, No. 92 nationally
Passing 20+ yard plays allowed: 20, No. 126 nationally

Only one Power 5 program has given up chunk yardage at a higher rate than North Carolina this season, and that’s perennial SEC doormat Vanderbilt.

So, how does that play against the Virginia Tech offense? Here’s where the Hokies ran in 20+ yard plays generated…

Overall 20+ yard plays: 14, No. 107 nationally
Rushing 20+ yard plays: 2, No. 114 nationally
Passing 20+ yard plays: 12, No. 79 nationally

Tech’s offense is better at chunk plays than the UNC defense, but not by much. However, the Hokies do hold an advantage in big plays in the passing game, and they have to be able to take advantage of that against the Tar Heel defense.

Special Teams

The Tar Heels look good in the kicking game. Punter Ben Kiernan is averaging 50.3 yards per punt with a long of 70. However, seven of his punts have been returned, so there should be an opportunity for DJ Harvey. UNC will also kick it through the end zone – 26 of Jonathan Kim’s 31 kickoffs were touchbacks.

UNC’s placekicker is unproven. Noah Burnette has made every field goal of his career thus far, but he’s only attempted two. However, both of them have been from 40+, so it appears that he has a strong leg.

The Tar Heels have athletes so they’ll be dangerous in the run game. Though he struggles on defense, Cam’Ron Kelly is averaging 12.8 yards per punt return with a long of 26. Tailback Omarion Hampton handles kickoff return duties, though he’s yet to break a big one.

Overall, I don’t see any major weaknesses in UNC’s special teams, at least not based on the stats, though this is one aspect of the game that is difficult to predict on a week-to-week basis.

Head Coach Mack Brown of the North Carolina Tar Heels
Mack Brown is 1-2 against the Hokies since returning to Chapel Hill in 2019. (Ivan Morozov)

Final Thoughts

I don’t like the fact that North Carolina is getting healthy at wideout as soon as the Hokies are down a body or two in the secondary. That’s really concerning.

On the other hand, this is the worst defense the Hokies have faced this season. WVU had their struggles before facing Virginia Tech, but they do have a very strong defensive line, and the Tar Heels can’t say that. UNC’s tendency to completely blow coverages is also encouraging.

What’s most encouraging are the intangibles. Like I said earlier, it’s a bad sign with the sideline reporter is saying during the game that basically the UNC defenders are freaking out on the sideline and that the coaches had to come over and tell them to “stop being selfish.” As much as I admire what UNC has done offensively over the last few years, the culture they have built on the defensive side of the ball is very poor. They already lacked physical and mental toughness, and now apparently they’ve thrown in selfishness for good measure. Why any defensive football player would commit to UNC is beyond me, and I think it’s borderline criminal for any influential adult to steer them there at this point.

If the Tech offense, particularly the running game, is ever going to get going, you’d have to think that this would be the week. The UNC defense can’t be confident, either in itself or its coaches. And if the players are playing for themselves rather than each other, they could potentially start playing worse than ever.

That said, the West Virginia defense was gashed by Kansas and Pitt, and the Virginia Tech offense should have taken a step forward last week, even if only a small one. It did not. I think there are so many issues with the Tar Heel defense that the Hokies can’t help but play better this week, though I also think that works in the reverse direction as well. The UNC defense should play better this week because they are playing the Tech offense. I figure those two groups will cancel each other out.

That means the game will hinge on how well Virginia Tech can hold down the UNC offense. I don’t think the Heels are as balanced as WVU, but they are more explosive at wide receiver, and their wideouts are getting healthier as Tech is losing defensive backs.

The Hokies need to take the lead, or at least stay within striking distance. They need to keep the pressure on UNC throughout the game because I don’t think this is a mentally tough football program. Pressure them and there’s a good chance they fold, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

If the Hokies had just a mediocre offense, I’d pick them to win this game by a couple of touchdowns, probably. But at this point, I’m in full “show me” mode when it comes to the running game. I need to physically see the running game perform better before I believe that it will. I definitely think the Hokies have a chance to win, but that’s more because of my view of the lack of mental toughness in UNC’s program than anything else.

(Note: ACCUWeather.com currently projects 0.77 inches of rain during the day on Saturday in Chapel Hill, and 1.20 inches at night. It’s so unpredictable. The game could be played in a swamp like in 2016 or it could be little enough rain that it doesn’t make a huge impact on the game. I don’t know, but I picked my score as if the rain will have a minimal impact. If it rains a lot, it will certainly limit the UNC passing game, but it will also mean the Hokies have to run the ball…a lot. I’m not sure I want to see that.)

Chris’s Prediction: North Carolina 31, Virginia Tech 20

Will Stewart’s Take: As noted in the photo above, Mack Brown is 1-2 against Virginia Tech since returning to Chapel Hill in 2019. Virginia Tech leads the overall series 25-12-6, including a 5-1 record by Justin Fuente during his tenure (where a 56-45 COVID-year loss was the only black mark). Fuente knew how to beat the Heels and Hoos, that’s for sure.

It’s become a running joke that no matter how much talent Mack Brown piles up at UNC, he just can’t seem to win many ball games (he’s 24-18), and beating Virginia Tech has been a struggle for the Heels in recent years.

I like the joke as much as anyone, but eventually, talent wins out. Here are UNC’s 247Sports Composite recruiting rankings versus Virginia Tech’s for the 2020-2022 classes:

  • 2020: UNC No. 14, VT No. 76
  • 2021: UNC No. 14, VT No. 44
  • 2022: UNC No. 11, VT No. 36
  • Average: UNC No. 13, VT No. 52

I won’t get into how many 4-star and 5-star recruits each program has signed. You get my point. Eventually, that imbalance has to take its toll, especially considering that Virginia Tech didn’t do a good job retaining and developing players in Fuente’s last few years.

Mack Brown, despite his faults, is in his 34th year as a head coach, while Brent Pry is in (shuffles papers) Year 1.

Enough gloom and doom. When it comes to the Heels, anything can happen, and they do have issues stopping the run. But that’s a case of the resistible force meeting the movable object (I love using that line), so we’ll see what happens.

Also, there’s a hurricane headed towards North Carolina, and I’m not sure we’re even going to play this game. It’s only Tuesday as I write this, though, and hurricanes can be unpredictable. Just ask Middle Tennessee State.

Waiting for the joke to hit … waiting … there it is!

Let’s cut to the chase: UNC is going to score points. Virginia Tech, even though it is No. 113 out of 131 FBS teams in points per game (20.3), might also score some points against UNC’s defense. Maybe the Hokies will even crack 30 for the first time this year.

We could go back and forth like this all day, but in the final analysis, I’ll say this: last week I picked with my heart, and this week, I’m picking with my head.

Will’s Prediction: North Carolina 38, Virginia Tech 20

David Cunningham’s Take: I’ll try to keep this short and sweet: Virginia Tech is in a rut, especially offensively. The group hasn’t surpassed 145 yards on the ground this year. At the same time, the Hokies have committed the third-most penalties in the country.

Through four games, I’d say Brent Pry has checked the majority of boxes on the defensive side of the ball. That unit is playing really well, and as he said after last Thursday’s game, holding West Virginia’s offense to just 26 points is pretty solid. Tech’s defense obviously has a big challenge on its hands against Carolina.

That puts the ball in the court of the VT offense. And from what I’ve seen through four weeks, there hasn’t much improvement, which is understandable when the offensive line is awful. The Hokies are so one-dimensional that defenses don’t have to scheme up anything crazy. The UNC defense is bad, though… man, that side of the ball is going to be ugly to watch, especially with expected rain.

I’d be shocked if North Carolina didn’t cover the nine-point spread. Until there’s a sign of life from Virginia Tech’s run game, it’ll be the same offensive gameplan. Grant Wells will throw between 35 and 40 passes and be under duress for 60 minutes. I don’t think Saturday will be pretty in Chapel Hill. In fact, I don’t think many games will be going forward if these issues persist.

David’s Prediction: North Carolina 41, Virginia Tech 16


What's your prediction for the 2022 Virginia Tech-North Carolina game?

  • Tar Heels Win by 11+ (62%, 780 Votes)
  • Hokies Win by 1-10 (18%, 229 Votes)
  • Tar Heels Win by 1-10 (15%, 194 Votes)
  • Hokies Win by 11+ (5%, 58 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,261

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Last Game’s Virginia Tech-WVU Prediction Poll Results

Game Result: West Virginia 33, Virginia Tech 10

What's your prediction for the 2022 Virginia Tech-West Virginia game?

  • Hokies Win by 1-10 (45%, 761 Votes)
  • Mountaineers Win by 1-10 (31%, 525 Votes)
  • Mountaineers Win by 11+ (18%, 310 Votes)
  • Hokies Win by 11+ (6%, 104 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,700

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2022 Virginia Tech Football Predictions Tracker - TSL Staff
Game
Chris (8-2)
Will (7-3)
David (8-2)
Result
@ODU
BC
Wofford
WVU
@UNC
@Pittsburgh
Miami
@NC State
Georgia Tech
@Duke
@Liberty
TBD
2022 Virginia Tech Football Predictions Tracker - Fans (6-3)

(record based on W-L, not margin of victory)
Game
Fan Poll
Result
Score
@ODU
Hokies Win by 11+
ODU 20, Hokies 17
Boston College
Hokies Win by 1-10
Hokies 27, BC 10
Wofford
Hokies Win by 11+
Hokies 27, Wofford 7
WVU
Hokies Win by 1-10
WVU 33, Hokies 10
@UNC
UNC Wins by 11+
UNC 41, Hokies 10
@Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh Wins by 11+
Pittsburgh 45, Hokies 29
Miami
Hurricanes Win by 11+
Miami 20, Hokies 14
@NC State
Wolfpack Wins by 11+
NC State 22, Hokies 21
Georgia Tech
Hokies Win by 1-10
GT 28, Hokies 27
@Duke
Blue Devils Win by 11+
Duke 24, Hokies 7

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  1. In the fan poll result, the group picked VT to beat BC by 1-10. VT won by 17, so the correct pick would have been VT win by 11+. So, we got that one wrong not correct.

  2. I see this game similar to WVU. Until our offense can score enough to stick with a good offense, our defense cannot play well enough to enable VT to win. Our D has played well with no pass rush. That will be a big problem with Maye and his WRs. Unfortunately, I see UNC winning in a rout.

  3. I don’t care how “bad” we are or how “good” UNCheat is, I will NEVER pick them to beat us. We seem to have their number, and they’re soft. While I really want to see improvement, for this game a win is all that matters.

  4. Mack Brown is 71, 2 years older than FB was in his last season, 2015. We know that rival coaches used Frank’s age against him in those last years. Frank’s between 2012 and 2015 was 29-26, a 57% winning mark. Brown’s record since his 2019 return is 23-19 (57%, shades of Frank Beamwer!) isn’t reminding the Heeliban (per Jim Alderson) of his first time around (1988-1997) which produced 70 wins, culiminating in UNC’s best season-ever, 11-1 that included a 42-3 Gator Bowl win over Tech. Mack looks more like Joe Gibbs’ Second Act (30-33) than he does his own First. No matter how Saturday’s game turns out, it could be Brown’s last vs. Tech. Brown left Chapel Hill the first time w/UNC’s second-most wins ever and owns the most (90) now but doesn’t figure to add many more. What’s more, he’s likely to leave CH w/the 2nd-best program in the “Old North State” and his successor (?) facing a re-build. He will not leave warm feelings behind him, rather dashed hopes. .

  5. 11-18-25 the margins you three projected. I do not believe we can score 16 or 20 to yield those results when we can’t routinely make a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1. Time to go “Air Raid” since running game is ZERO.

    GO HOKIES!!!

  6. If one only have ingredients to make a cake. Don’t try to bake a pie!! Just go back to zone blocking and running on the edge combined with misdirection. Don’t try to run up the middle for now, work on that during the off season. GO HOKIES.. win another conference game.

    1. You’re right. We don’t have the horses yet and need players to match Pry’s system. Gonna’ be tough sledding for a couple years but not gonna’ player or coach-hate. Never. Focus on positive and the reality of the program.
      That said .. ugh .. UNC 41 — Tech 23

  7. This rain and wind will make this an ugly game. The team that prepared for the bad weather better VT will win. Mayne will fumble Wells will not. VT will run the ball enough to eat clock and let it’s defense win the game. VT 12 UNC 6.

  8. We should have success running in the A gap. Still not sure we can score points but at least we can have some ball control and keep it close until late. Tougher team will win this.

  9. This team could compete vs a hapless UNC defense just like last yr..hold the ball long, keep their O off the field, keep our def fresh, pound the rock and frustrate UNC with a different temp.

    Who am I kidding? We don’t have the scheming, game planning or flat out coaching to sniff a competitive game

    VT 13. UNC 41

  10. Looks like a sure win for the Hokies, given the unanimous picks for UNC. Didn’t all the prognosticators pick Miami following the Duke debacle in 2019?

  11. If VT can’t successfully run the ball against the pathetic UNC defense within the first couple offensive possessions, I would just start playing an air raid type offense.

    1. Depends on the weather and where the hurricane goes. if its even near a tropical storm in Crapel, air raid will seem not as attractive an offensive strategy. If only a 20 or so mph winds and not heavy rain then maybe

  12. Yep, yep, and yep on the picks unfortunately. I was Born a Hokie and will die one. I was fortunate to be around for 1993-2009. Maybe it will come around again before I’m gone. It won’t be this year. Go Hokies!

  13. As always Chris, thanks for the great article. From the predictions, it appears that it is all gloom and doom for the good guys this Sat. Hope all of you are wrong on your predictions, but admittedly, I’m leaning that way also after the pathetic display so far in the first four games. If there is only one win left on the schedule this year, please have it be against UNCheat- despise those guys even more than the school in Cville.

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