Virginia Tech Faces North Carolina In Chapel Hill

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Will Fuente vs. Fedora III be as lopsided as the first two meetings? (Photo by Ivan Morozov)

Virginia Tech (3-2, 2-0 ACC) returns to action Saturday night when they face North Carolina (1-3, 1-1) in Kenan Stadium in Chapel Hill.

Justin Fuente versus Larry Fedora matchups have been decidedly one-sided since Fuente was hired from Memphis before the 2016 season.

2016: Virginia Tech 34, UNC 3
2017: Virginia Tech 59, UNC 7
Total: Virginia Tech 93, UNC 10

The Tar Heels will be looking to reverse that trend, and they’ve had an extra week to prepare for the Hokies. Will that be enough to get Fedora his first victory over Fuente? Let’s take a closer look at UNC.

The UNC Quarterback Situation

Larry Fedora had the choice of starting either Nathan Elliott (6-1, 215, r-Jr.) Chazz Surratt (6-3, 215, r-So.) against Virginia Tech, but the news broke Wednesday that Surratt is out for the season with a wrist injury.

That news was first reported by Tar Heel Illustrated, which followed up with an article that freshman QB Cade Fortin will play Saturday and may even start.

Both Elliott and Fortin have played this year, though Elliott has played a lot more and has started every game.  Here are their numbers…

Nathan Elliott: 75-of-129 (58.14%) for 773 yards, 3 TDs, 4 INTs
Cade Fortin: 3-of-6 (50%) for 15 yards

Not only is Fortin a freshman, but he’s a true freshman.  He did enroll in January, and he had a solid offer list that included Texas A&M, Cal, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt and West Virginia. 

Elliott is an experienced player who has struggled his entire career.  As a redshirt junior, he’s completed just 55.6% of his passes over his career, he has just 13 touchdown passes to nine interceptions, and he averages only 6.2 yards per attempt.  Those 6.2 yards per attempt does not rank among the top 100 quarterbacks in college football.  In fact, the bottom players on the top 100 list average 6.5 yards per attempt, which is well ahead of Elliott.

At this point, Elliott is who he is.  He isn’t going to get any better.  He isn’t going to magically develop a better arm and start completing passes down the field.  If I’m Fedora, I’m going with Fortin, and I’d lean on the running game to help him.  It can’t possibly make the quarterback situation any worse than it already is.  However, I’m not sure that “leaning on the running game” is something that is in Fedora’s mental makeup.  He’s always been a pass happy coach no matter who he has at tailback.

The Tar Heels have gotten good tailback production this year….

Antonio Williams (5-11, 210, Jr.): 43 carries, 281 yards, 6.5 ypc, 3 TDs
Jordan Brown (5-11, 200, Jr.): 34 carries, 137 yards, 4.0 ypc, 2 TDs
Michael Carter (5-9, 195, So.): 13 carries, 103 yards, 7.9 ypc, 0 TDs
Total: 90 carries, 521 yards, 5.8 ypc, 5 TDs

Fedora needs to lean on those guys more, but I just don’t know that he has it in him.  In UNC’s close 24-17 loss to Cal, Tar Heel tailbacks combined for just 25 carries, while Nathan Elliott threw 35 times and ran it another 10 times (0 sacks0. 

It will be interesting to see what Fedora does, especially since he’s had an extra week to prepare.

The UNC Defense: Improved, But Still Mediocre

Here is the game-by-game yardage that the UNC defense has allowed…

at Cal: 279
at ECU: 510
vs. Pitt: 402
at Miami: 354

From a yardage standpoint, only the ECU game stands out as a terrible game (the 402 yards gained by Pitt would rank No. 75 in the country in total offense). Last season, the UNC defense allowed 436.1 yards per game. This season that number stands at 386.25. That ranks No. 71 nationally, whereas Virginia Tech’s defense allows 398 yards per game, ranking No. 80 nationally. From the standpoint of traditional stats, the Tar Heels will field the better defense on Saturday.

The advanced stats tell us that North Carolina’s issues have come defending the run.

Rushing Marginal Efficiency: No. 102
Rushing Marginal Explosiveness: No. 119
Passing Marginal Efficiency: No. 42
Passing Marginal Explosiveness: No. 43

The Tar Heels have done okay against the pass, but they haven’t been able to stop the running game. Here are their rushing yards allowed by game…

Cal: 160
ECU: 220
Pitt: 228
Miami: 229

The Hokies should be able to get something going on the ground against the Tar Heels. Starting defensive end Malik Carney (6-3, 250, r-Sr.) will miss this weekend because of suspension. He has 5.5 tackles for loss and 3.5 sacks in the two games he’s played this season, so he could be a significant loss.

Overall, UNC’s defense has improved, but they are still a mediocre group.

Exploit the Nickel?

North Carolina has not one, but two true freshmen at the top of their depth chart at the nickel spot.

1: Trey Morrison (5-10, 190, Fr.)
2: Bryson Richardson (6-0, 190, Fr.)

Thus far, Morrison has gotten the majority of the reps. He has 12 tackles on the season to Richardson’s one. Whichever nickel is in the game will be a very young, very inexperienced player. He’ll have both run and pass responsibilities.

I would expect Virginia Tech offensive coordinator Brad Cornelsen and head coach Justin Fuente to try to find a way to exploit this inexperienced position.

The Playmaker

Anthony Ratliff-Williams (6-1, 205, r-Jr.) originally went to North Carolina as a quarterback, but he’s developed into one of the most well-rounded players in the league. He was a First Team All-ACC specialist a year ago, and he can change the game on offense or special teams. He can also do it with his feet or his arm.

Here are his numbers from last season…

Receiving: 35 catches, 630 yards, 18 ypc, 6 TDs
Kick Returns: 34 returns, 895 yards, 26.3 ypr, 2 TDs
Passing: 3-of-4, 86 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT

Overall, Ratliff-Williams was responsible for 10 North Carolina touchdowns a year ago, and he did them in three different ways.

The best defense against his kickoff return abilities is to continue to kick the ball through the endzone. 31 of Jordan Stout’s 33 kickoffs has gone for touchbacks. That percentage of 93.94% ranks No. 1 in the country. If Stout continues to do that, then the Hokies will negate a big portion of Ratliff-Williams’s game.

However, the Hokies will still have to defend him as a wide receiver. They especially need to be on their guard for the wide receiver pass. Ratliff-Williams has yet to throw a pass this season, but with extra time to prepare for this game, it’s very possible that the UNC coaches could include such a play in the playbook for Saturday night’s game.

Hokies Must Avoid the Big Play

Speaking of playmakers, Virginia Tech’s defense has been burned by the big play repeatedly this season. Three of Notre Dame’s 67 plays netted 168 yards last week (all went for touchdowns). The other 64 plays gained just 270 yards, which comes out to just 4.22 yards per play. 4.22 yards per play would rank as the sixth best mark in the country, if you extrapolate it out to the entire season. That’s how good Virginia Tech’s defense was for 64 of the 67 plays they were on the field against the Irish.

However, if you can’t prevent three big plays, it makes those other 64 plays a lot less important. Here are some advanced stats that show exactly how bad the Hokies have been in preventing the big play this season. First, let’s look at the overall defense…

Success rate: No. 20
Marginal Efficiency: No. 45
IsoPPP: No. 130
Marginal Explosiveness: No. 129

The first two measure the overall picture, and the Hokies have been solid. IsoPPP and Marginal Explosiveness measure big plays, however, and Tech has been awful there.

The difference in overall efficiency rate and big play rate is vastly different in the running game. Here are Tech’s defensive numbers against the run thus far…

Rushing Marginal Efficiency: No. 10
Rushing Marginal Explosiveness: No. 125
Opportunity Rate: No. 3
Stuff Rate: No. 3

The Hokies are one of the nation’s best teams against the run, and they would be even better if they could prevent big plays such as the 85 yard run by Cam Akers, or the 97 yard run by Dexter Williams.

Things aren’t as vastly different in the passing game…

Passing Marginal Efficiency: No. 76
Passing Marginal Explosiveness: No. 114
Passing Completion Rate: No. 104
Sack Rate: No. 43

Again, the Hokies are bad about giving up the big play. However, they aren’t so good when it comes to defending the short-to-intermediate routes, either.

How do the Tar Heels rank in big plays? They are No. 29 in rushing marginal explosiveness, and No. 107 in passing margin explosiveness. They’ve been able to hit big plays on the ground, but they have been stagnant through the air. The Hokies need to keep their gap integrity against the run, and they need to tackle cleanly. If they can prevent big plays by the UNC running game, it will be difficult for the Tar Heels to move the ball consistently.

Special Teams Comparison

North Carolina’s special teams have been good this year, as the numbers show.

FG Value: No. 36
Punt Efficiency: No. 14
Kickoff Efficiency: No. 16
Punt Return Efficiency: No. 34
Kickoff Return Efficiency: No. 106

That kickoff return efficiency number can probably be ignored, as we know that Anthony Ratliff-Williams is capable of breaking a big one at any point. Still, it’s likely that he’ll be cancelled out by Jordan Stout and Virginia Tech’s own lofty special teams rankings.

FG Value: No. 48 (two very long FG attempts against Notre Dame hurt this ranking)
Punt Efficiency: No. 2
Kickoff Efficiency: No. 1
Punt Return Efficiency: No. 23
Kickoff Return Efficiency: No. 103

On the whole, this looks like a pretty even matchup, with perhaps a slight advantage for the Hokies.

Final Thoughts

There’s no such thing as a “must-win” game in mid-October, but the Hokies need to win this one to go to 3-0 in the ACC, with all three wins coming on the road. That would put them at 4-2 overall, and 3-0 in the conference, with Georgia Tech coming to town.

That Georgia Tech game is why I say the Hokies need to win this one. I cringe while thinking about some of those young Virginia Tech defenders trying to defend Paul Johnson’s spread option for the first time. The Yellow Jackets aren’t what they used to be, but that system is still very difficult. Virginia Tech can still win the Coastal Division if they lose to Georgia Tech, but they can’t win it if they lose to both Georgia Tech and UNC.

The big play ability of Anthony Ratliff-Williams concerns me, particularly since he’ll be facing an inexperienced Virginia Tech secondary. The health of Divine Deablo also concerns me. Is he playing or not? I wish I knew. But in the end, the Hokies have the better quarterback, and they are also better up front on both sides of the ball. The Tar Heels will probably play better than we’ve become accustomed to over the last two years, but based on all the evidence that we have, it wouldn’t make any sense to pick them to win this game.

The fact that Cade Fortin may start adds a bit of unknown to this game.  I’m getting a little bit tired of opposing teams changing quarterbacks at the last minute.  Personally, I’d prefer to face Elliott.  I know his strengths (there aren’t many) and his weaknesses (there are a lot).  Fortin is a big unknown.  That said, I’m not going to let a true freshman worry me too much. 

Chris’s Prediction: Virginia Tech 34, UNC 17

Will Stewart’s Take: When you have a young team like the Hokies, anything is possible on game day, meaning that a North Carolina squad that is 1-3 (and would likely be 1-4 if their game with UCF hadn’t been canceled due to Hurricane Florence) could beat Virginia Tech.

UNC has been all over the map. 10 of their 11 turnovers have come in two games: a close 24-17 loss to Cal (four turnovers) and a 47-10 blowout by Miami (six turnovers). In their other two games, they have beaten Pitt 38-35 (one turnover) and been spanked by ECU 41-19 (no turnovers).

So they’ve been blown out with and without turning it over, and they’ve had close games with and without turning it over. It’s not all about the turnovers for them, and they don’t necessarily cough it up every game.

You also know that Virginia Tech has been all over the map, making this game hard to predict. If UNC is truly going to play (and possibly start) a freshman QB the Hokies have never seen before, that adds another layer of uncertainty.

Kenan Stadium does not, of course, present any sort of feared venue for the Hokies, who are 6-1 there since joining the ACC. (Carolina won 48-34 in 2012, the only blemish.) The Hokies have historically felt pretty comfortable there.

On our podcast Wednesday, I picked Virginia Tech to win by a large margin, something like 42-20. Today, I’m not so sure. I still think Virginia Tech will win, but today I think it’s going to be a close, hard-fought battle. Or perhaps the best way to phrase it is that I fear it’s going to be close, hard-fought battle, because that means it could come down to just a couple plays that go the wrong way.

There’s a lot on the line here, but I think the Hokies will come through in the end, and I’m going with a lower-scoring game than I predicted on the podcast. My pick is based on Divine Deablo not playing. If he plays and is effective, things get much more comfortable for Virginia Tech.

Will’s Prediction: Virginia Tech 27, North Carolina 21

Editor’s Note: If you’re looking for concessions during the game, try the booths just under Section 101 and next to Gate 1.  Buying concessions at these booths will benefit the Orange High School band programs.  They’ll have normal concessions there such as drinks, sandwiches (Chik-Fil-A/Bojangles), pizza, popcorn, peanuts, candy, soft pretzels, hot dogs, etc.   The locations are marked by the two circles in the lower right hand corner of the picture below.

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  1. I have watched all of the UNC games this year. It’s hard to get a handle on the. Because they had so. Any suspensions and some teams are better at exploiting a matchup than others. The team playing the Hokies is very nearly back to full strength though Malik Carney and Surratt are now noticeable deletions.

    Bottom Line: at times, the UNC offense is really poor, as bad as any ACC team I can remember in last few years (like bc when they had the QBs injury). Just cannot execute a play. But they are definitely better on defense (the upper classmen are strong and tackle well) and you have to give credit to Virginia Tech Alumni, and former Blacksburg HS coach, UNC DC John Papuchis. His defenses historically are good against the pass dating back to LSU and Nebraska. If this becomes a game in the 4th quarter its a very bad thing for the Hokies. Got to find a way to run the ball (outside zone and jet sweep) to isolate the young and poor perimeter tacklers.

    Because we all know it’s a matter of time in every game when our young perimeter tackling gets exposed. And Carter is a really talented young running back for the heels.

    Hokies win by 10 points but it’s a later UNC score to get it close and really the game is never in doubt.

  2. According to smart folks, Our road graders are better at run blocking thsn pass blocking. Both ok, but one is better. Reading unc is a bit soft against the run leads to one easy conclusion:

    1) pound the rock
    1a) some passing work
    2) perhaps we see a package for #2.

    Jump on them early, then play keep away. Protect the D.

    Hope we can let deablo get some time to heal up and not need him.

    1. #2 doesn’t need a package. He’s the backup for a reason and backups should play when the starter gets hurt, IMO.

  3. I think we are going to push 250 yards on the ground and we’re going to limit their running dramatically (with Fedora’s help). I expect something similar to the BC game last year where they look pretty bad on offense until the game is out of hand. Something like 33-10.

  4. Quick question: if you take out the ODU game, what are the explosive/big play defensive stats. I wonder because taking it out may be an indicator of how much the defensive had improved and adapted since the ODU game. it is part of the stats but it is going to skew stats.

    1. I don’t know. I just copy the stats from the page I get them from. I don’t know how they are calculated.

    2. Several HUGE plays against ND. I know ND is good, but we played with them minus the mistakes and HUGE plays given up (both run and pass).

      I haven’t seen much improvement except vs Duke…and, despite Cutliff being a good coach, Duke is STILL Duke.

      I see a very tough game for the Hokies. We will have to score a LOT of points to win.. Hope we can!!

  5. Note on the concessions plug…there are actually 2 stands that the band manages. One under section 101 and one near Gate 1.

    They would greatly appreciate the support!

    1. all for supporting local economy and high schools. used to work high school games concessions and buy under Lane from the local church and high school stands.
      but i would like to know: why Orange High School is being propped? has to be more than that ‘orange’ is one of our Hokie colors. someone have a relative there? someone TSL from there?
      i think in 17 years on TSL ,it’s the only time i’ve seen a concession stand singled out for our support. ut prosim

      Go Hokies! this saturday’s target: 1 – 0

      1. I guess I took a reeeally long time to type out my question since I didn’t see same question when I started…

      2. I was wondering that myself. Could it be Chris is pushing sales to the local high school and not the UNCheasts?

    2. Who are the Orange High School band programs? Is that something to do with VT? I’m cool with supporting a local band instead of the Cheats- just wondering…

      Hopefully it helps us in recruiting, too- whether it be for our sports program or marching band!

  6. VT running game & O-Line is the difference maker here cause the best way to frustrate UNCheat’s young QB is keep him on the sidelines for long periods of time. Fedora’s entering the Must Win phase of the season & tenure at UNCheat so would not be surprised if he throws the kitchen sink to VT in quick crossing routes under our safeties and double move big plays to the outsides against our CBs…specialty teams can play keep away to Ratliff-Williams & cut down his opportunities to make plays for UNCheat.

    Like Da U, its time for VT to impose its will onto the TarHeels. Time to live the motto: Pass to Score, Run to Win!!!

    Let’s Go…Hokies!!!
    BEAT the Tar-babies!!!

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