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    Quote Originally Posted by Femoyer74 View Post
    You guys seem to forget who we are adding ( Pitt, Syracuse & ND).
    When ND is in for all sports heave joined. Until then we're being Big Easted by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTGolfer View Post
    No hope needed. The entire leadership team lacks the vision to understand what this means. They actually think the ACC is stable long term.
    I agree with them. We are far more important to the ACC than Maryland, which will be a drag on the Big 10. Dumb move both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    I like the ACC -- with or without Maryland. It is where we belong and where we shall stay. We can only hope our administrators stand strong in the face of wrong-headed stuff like this.
    It's where we belong? Why? FSU and Clemson would leave in a heartbeat if the SEC offered. Maryland, a founding member, apparently wants out. We only got Pitt and Cuse because the Big Ten was not interested. What is the ACC anyway: Syracuse, Pitt, (no Maryland), and replacement school X?

    VT belongs in the conference that can maximize it's academic and athletic prestige and revenues. There is no other consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawhokie View Post
    This is the doomsday scenario: this is the beginning of the cannibalization of the ACC. If Maryland leaves, the already-unattractive ACC just got uglier. Why would we wait for the next shoe to drop. Let's call the Big Ten and the SEC to see what's doin'. Why would we wait?
    This is not doomsday. Losing UMd sucks, but we're bringing in Cuse and Pitt, with ND potentially joining in the near future as well. We can easily... EASILY recover from this, and with VT and UVa still in the ACC, the conference is not going to lose the DC market by UMd leaving. Far too many alum of both schools in that area for that to happen.

    Doomsday will happen if/when FSU and Clemson bail. That happens, and the ACC is completely done as a serious player in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    I agree with them. We are far more important to the ACC than Maryland, which will be a drag on the Big 10. Dumb move both ways.
    Maryland is bigger than VT, more highly rated, AAU, and sits in the middle of the DC metro area. The Big Ten sees Maryland as establishing a presence in the South, which they've wanted for years, and a way of snatching the DC/Nova media market. Not to mention snagging a 40k student school with big research money that divides the ACC in half.

    This is not a dumb move by the Big Ten at all. It's a strategic master stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    I agree with them. We are far more important to the ACC than Maryland, which will be a drag on the Big 10. Dumb move both ways.
    Other than geography it's a terrible fit. The mix of smaller private and larger public universities causes conflicts of interest that are unresolvable long term. It's almost impossible for smaller private universities to compete at the highest levels of football. Which his why they typically focus on basketball. Yet larger universities need revenues that can only be generated by football to support their larger athletic budgets. VT will be near 40k enrollment in the next decade. The differences between us and Duke, Wake, Miami, etc are only getting bigger. The ACC has already chosen to focus on their roots of basketball by bringing in Syracuse and Pitt and accepting ND as a partial. And really it makes sense for the ACC but not for VT and its mission as the states largest land grant university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCHokie83 View Post
    This is not doomsday. Losing UMd sucks, but we're bringing in Cuse and Pitt, with ND potentially joining in the near future as well. We can easily... EASILY recover from this, and with VT and UVa still in the ACC, the conference is not going to lose the DC market by UMd leaving. Far too many alum of both schools in that area for that to happen.

    Doomsday will happen if/when FSU and Clemson bail. That happens, and the ACC is completely done as a serious player in football.
    Do you want to wait until FSU leaves before VT makes a move? I'd bet FSU is already furiously working on an exit strategy: should VT wait until it's too late before making any calls?

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    +1. And Syr and Pitt get no one excited.
    Quote Originally Posted by VTGolfer View Post
    When ND is in for all sports heave joined. Until then we're being Big Easted by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HokieNC View Post
    What is the impact of Umd leaving (if they do)? football program: an empty stadium and losing? the basketball program? pitt and syr aren't chopped liver in BB.
    We lose the DC market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawhokie View Post
    Maryland is bigger than VT, more highly rated, AAU, and sits in the middle of the DC metro area. The Big Ten sees Maryland as establishing a presence in the South, which they've wanted for years, and a way of snatching the DC/Nova media market. Not to mention snagging a 40k student school with big research money that divides the ACC in half.

    This is not a dumb move by the Big Ten at all. It's a strategic master stroke.
    LOL. You must work there.

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