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    Quote Originally Posted by lawhokie View Post
    Yet they could be gone. You don't hear about the evidence until it's too late. VT was foolish to shut the door on the SEC.
    Who said the door is shut?

    The talk from the admin has always been "All things remaining equal, Virginia Tech prefers to be in the Atlantic Coast Conference." There was always the disclaimer that we preferred the ACC as it was built, which I totally and completely buy.

    But the administration is not stupid. If the cards start to fall, and UMd does jump to the Big Ten, which prompts FSU and Clemson to bolt to the Big 12.... 2 things... 1, do you think the SEC will remain in their current format, especially with the B12 now having Texas, Okla, FSU, Clemson, WVU, etc? And another, do you really think we're going to stick it out here in the ACC if and when this all goes down, especially with the conference absorbing the teams from the Big East we ran away from only 10 years ago?

    No, if this does happen, and the ACC doomsday scenario actually occurs, we're on the first jet to the SEC, with either NC State or UNC in tow (likely NCSU, while UVa and UNC pair up to do everything they can to get in the Big Ten). And you can quote me on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    Right but how is FSU getting 50 mil to leave? Or Clemson? MD are lucky that they have their Under Armor, FSU and Clemson do not have that. We will see but very unrealistic. The exit fee is also predicated on % of the operating budget of ACC, which means it will only climb up every year.
    There is also rumblings that UMd would sue the ACC to bring down the buyout, and they very well could be successful in it. If that happens, all bets are off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    Right but how is FSU getting 50 mil to leave? Or Clemson? MD are lucky that they have their Under Armor, FSU and Clemson do not have that. We will see but very unrealistic. The exit fee is also predicated on % of the operating budget of ACC, which means it will only climb up every year.
    FSU would litigate that exit fee down because they were opposed to it. I'd bet they get out for the old exit fee (20MM?).

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    What. You're not impressed by 5 games a year vs. ND? (tic)
    Quote Originally Posted by hardcorpshokie View Post
    When Maryland, a founding ACC member leaves, it absolves FSU of the guilt of ruining the conference. The next card could be FSU and Clemson to the B12.

    Now here we are, with our antiquated dreams of the ACC, holding the bag in a second rate conference.

    We were wrong as a school to turn down the SEC. It was a short sided, narrow, and backward thinking decision and it is typical of this school. We tried to so hard to get into the good old boys club, look what it has gotten us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCHokie83 View Post
    Who said the door is shut?

    The talk from the admin has always been "All things remaining equal, Virginia Tech prefers to be in the Atlantic Coast Conference." There was always the disclaimer that we preferred the ACC as it was built, which I totally and completely buy.

    But the administration is not stupid. If the cards start to fall, and UMd does jump to the Big Ten, which prompts FSU and Clemson to bolt to the Big 12.... 2 things... 1, do you think the SEC will remain in their current format, especially with the B12 now having Texas, Okla, FSU, Clemson, WVU, etc? And another, do you really think we're going to stick it out here in the ACC if and when this all goes down, especially with the conference absorbing the teams from the Big East we ran away from only 10 years ago?

    No, if this does happen, and the ACC doomsday scenario actually occurs, we're on the first jet to the SEC, with either NC State or UNC in tow (likely NCSU, while UVa and UNC pair up to do everything they can to get in the Big Ten). And you can quote me on that.
    This is the doomsday scenario: this is the beginning of the cannibalization of the ACC. If Maryland leaves, the already-unattractive ACC just got uglier. Why would we wait for the next shoe to drop. Let's call the Big Ten and the SEC to see what's doin'. Why would we wait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardcorpshokie View Post
    When Maryland, a founding ACC member leaves, it absolves FSU of the guilt of ruining the conference. The next card could be FSU and Clemson to the B12.

    Now here we are, with our antiquated dreams of the ACC, holding the bag in a second rate conference.

    We were wrong as a school to turn down the SEC. It was a short sided, narrow, and backward thinking decision and it is typical of this school. We tried to so hard to get into the good old boys club, look what it has gotten us.
    I like the ACC -- with or without Maryland. It is where we belong and where we shall stay. We can only hope our administrators stand strong in the face of wrong-headed stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardcorpshokie View Post
    When Maryland, a founding ACC member leaves, it absolves FSU of the guilt of ruining the conference. The next card could be FSU and Clemson to the B12.

    Now here we are, with our antiquated dreams of the ACC, holding the bag in a second rate conference.

    We were wrong as a school to turn down the SEC. It was a short sided, narrow, and backward thinking decision and it is typical of this school. We tried to so hard to get into the good old boys club, look what it has gotten us.
    What is the impact of Umd leaving (if they do)? football program: an empty stadium and losing? the basketball program? pitt and syr aren't chopped liver in BB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HokieNC View Post
    What is the impact of Umd leaving (if they do)? football program: an empty stadium and losing? the basketball program? pitt and syr aren't chopped liver in BB.
    2nd largest school in the ACC, one of the better research schools, sole presence in DC metro area, sole major program in the state of Maryland. It's a big loss.

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    You guys seem to forget who we are adding ( Pitt, Syracuse & ND).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    I like the ACC -- with or without Maryland. It is where we belong and where we shall stay. We can only hope our administrators stand strong in the face of wrong-headed stuff like this.
    No hope needed. The entire leadership team lacks the vision to understand what this means. They actually think the ACC is stable long term.

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