Second of all Navy could compete in football with most of the ACC. They are 8-4 again and going to a bowl again and have been playing toe to toe with ND for years now. So this stuff about Navy not being able to compete in the ACC is just not accurate. Will they win the conference a lot no, but they will create some entertaining games like GT does. Add all the other things these two institutions bring and I think the positives far out weigh the negatives if we go to 20 teams and 4 divisions.
Did I convince anybody?
Stech, as a regular on this board, you know that conference realignment has been about increasing revenue. Explain how adding Army and Navy will increase revenue for ACC schools, or would provide a larger revenue increase than the usual 2nd tier Big XII and AAC suspects - Kansas, Kstate, WVU, UCinn, UConn, USF, UCF, Temple or anyone else. Army and Navy aren't on the level of 'get' that ND, Ok, Texas are on, so I think we can agree that they aren't primary expansion targets. But as filler to get to 20, how are they the best option to maximize revenue?
BCS level college football is a resource war, not a morality play.
I really think that people forget how many people who served in the Army and Navy who not only watch that game, but follow them all year. They have a following that is similar in nature to Notre Dame and their Catholic following. It is also not just state side either, the Armed Forces channels over seas carry them and get a draw too. Don't get me wrong I want Texas and Oklahoma too, but I think they would bring an incredible value to the image of the ACC in many different ways.
Both academies fit geographically. Pretty easy (cheap) travel for visiting teams. I believe there would be plenty of visitor fans who would take the opportunity to visit the academies when their team plays there. I don't know if other ACC members have ties to the military like VT but how great would it be to see Navy & Army in Lane. If quality of football is a reason to keep them out of the ACC, then UVa, Wake, and Duke (even with their 2013 once-in-a-blue-moon record) should be expelled.
Since then, VT joined the ACC. ND joined the ACC in all other sports and signed a 5 game agreement with the ACC and has been dropping B1G 10 football games. The ACC is at 14 plus 1. Army and Navy have been spending more and more money on football. I personally think the expansion has to be more inclusive than when this started. IMHO they have to go to 20 to keep the number (not all) of the politicians they need to pull this off.
I will just throw you one other curve ball. I could see Navy to the ACC, Army to the BiG 10 and Air Force to the PAC. If the Army Navy game is OOC it might make it easier to have the Army Navy game after the conference championships like it is now. The only problem of course is that they would have a game after the conference championship if either ever got there...I know highly unlikely and at a minimum highly infrequent.
Last edited by Stech; Thu Dec 19 2013 at 06:57 AM.