And as long as there are conferences like the BigEast and the ACC - ND will never have to belong to one.
I tend to agree. The ACC had desperation written all over it and ND knew it. Now the ACC is in a real pickle - how do you now get ND to go all of the way with you? Would have been tough to get ND all of the way before, but it will be even tougher now.
But I do believe that the relationship can/is beneficial for both parties.
The Yankees are in the AL East, the Cowboys are in the NFC East, but if ND can stay independent and make it to the Football National Championship they will not move. However, where we disagree is whether the other schools in the long run are going to allow them to get there without being in a conference. There is going to be a new division of college football with a stipend and you will have to be in a conference to get to the Football top division National Championship. The good news for ND is the divisions will be small and you will still be able to play a national schedule and win your division and you are in the playoff. As big as ND is and they are big, they are not bigger than the rest of the top tier of college football and where they want to go with what will be a Billion Dollar Plus playoff for the top tier.
I felt the Big-12 was in worse situation than the ACC before ND joined, even with their bowl "deal" with the SEC. Conferences that have multiple long time member schools looking to, and/or actually jumping ship speaks volumes. Nebraska wanted out bad, and was invited to the Big-10. Colorado was working their exit plan behind the scenes with the Pac-10. Mizzou hiked their skirt up further than anyone begging for a Big-10 invite, only to be denied. They got lucky the SEC needed another school to balance the addition of aTm, who was looking to get out from under Big TX's oppressive demands of the Big-12. Guess ND noticed the same, and was still able to leverage a better deal (for them) using the Big-12's offer.
"You start a conversation you can't even finish it
You're talkin' a lot, but you're not sayin' anything
When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed
Say something once, why say it again?"
- David Byrne
BCS level college football is a resource war, not a morality play.
2004 to 2012 was a good time without ND, but short lived IMO.
Last edited by Calamitous; Mon Aug 26 2013 at 11:47 PM.
The more I view the deal though I see it can be a benefit to both sides. But I do understand/except that not everyone is excited over this deal. But I have to say I have been surprised that the overall tone from boards I visit has been generally positive.
Last edited by goldendomer; Tue Aug 27 2013 at 12:05 AM.