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    Quote Originally Posted by LSU Tiger View Post
    Four 16-team conferences is precisely what was planned with the establishment of the BCS. That and to prevent teams like BYU from winning the national championship.
    Before the ACC raided the Big East back in 2003, there were 62 BCS conference teams plus Notre Dame. Subtract Temple and add Utah and TCU and you have 64 teams in the pool of current interest. So when you say 4 - 16 team leagues... it all makes sense mathematically. But then you have Louisville in the mix making it an oddball number with 65. If 64 is a magic number, Louisville may have screwed TCU if the Big XII dissolves.

    The wild card to me is if 64 has to turn into 80 based upon public pressure and legal issues from schools like BYU, Boise State, SDSU, ECU, Cincy, UConn, etc. If 80 becomes the number, I wonder if we're looking at 4 - 20 team leagues or 5 - 16 team leagues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveinop View Post
    Big East's demise and another one (Big 12?) might soon be on the endangered species list. Not too long after a four-team playoff starts in 2014, we're probably going to have four 16-team super conferences controlling an obscene amount of money."
    Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby is hinting that it's time to divide the big boys from the other Division 1 football programs. Bowlsby's comments at the Big 12 media day suggests that the power conference schools are going to finally give the NCAA an ultimatum. Either the NCAA forms another subdivision and divides Division 1 into 3 groups or the power conferences break away from the NCAA and form their own college athletics organization as many on here have mentioned the past few years.

    Maybe Bowlsby is concerned that more of his Big 12 schools (likely Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas) will jump ship? Maybe Bowlsby is hoping for the NCAA to quickly form a third subdivision so all his current Big 12 members will be included and not be left out of the big money if Texas and Oklahoma leave within a few years?

    If the NCAA does form a power conference subdivision (mainly for football), it will be interesting to see how many of the 125 FBS schools make the cut. Schools like Western Kentucky, Appalachian State, ODU, and Georgia State have just joined the FBS subdivision mainly because of the money. Now the power 5 conferences want to separate from the smaller FBS schools. Bowlsby said that he likes the NCAA men's basketball tournament format and feels all is right with it but wonders how it will do if the power conference schools don't get their wish (separate subdivision) and leave the NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Line Hokie View Post
    Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby is hinting that it's time to divide the big boys from the other Division 1 football programs. Bowlsby's comments at the Big 12 media day suggests that the power conference schools are going to finally give the NCAA an ultimatum. Either the NCAA forms another subdivision and divides Division 1 into 3 groups or the power conferences break away from the NCAA and form their own college athletics organization as many on here have mentioned the past few years.

    Maybe Bowlsby is concerned that more of his Big 12 schools (likely Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas) will jump ship? Maybe Bowlsby is hoping for the NCAA to quickly form a third subdivision so all his current Big 12 members will be included and not be left out of the big money if Texas and Oklahoma leave within a few years?

    If the NCAA does form a power conference subdivision (mainly for football), it will be interesting to see how many of the 125 FBS schools make the cut. Schools like Western Kentucky, Appalachian State, ODU, and Georgia State have just joined the FBS subdivision mainly because of the money. Now the power 5 conferences want to separate from the smaller FBS schools. Bowlsby said that he likes the NCAA men's basketball tournament format and feels all is right with it but wonders how it will do if the power conference schools don't get their wish (separate subdivision) and leave the NCAA.
    David Teel has quite a bit about this from a Swofford Interview today. I don't know if he got this with an exclusive interview or not. There is a lot of good stuff in the interview about Swofford's opinion on this. It was also interesting that Swofford thinks the NCAA has done a poor job with Miami's situation.
    http://www.dailypress.com/sports/tee...,6431049.story

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOO86 View Post
    David Teel has quite a bit about this from a Swofford Interview today. I don't know if he got this with an exclusive interview or not. There is a lot of good stuff in the interview about Swofford's opinion on this. It was also interesting that Swofford thinks the NCAA has done a poor job with Miami's situation.
    http://www.dailypress.com/sports/tee...,6431049.story
    It appears the commissioners from the Big 5 conferences have been talking about this for some time now. I guess we'll have a better feel for the future of the NCAA Division 1 in the next 6 months. There seems to be a sense of urgency among the Big 5 commissioners to get this done (another division for the top 75 or so football schools) or ..... the Big 5 will seriously look into forming their own college athletics association. Since the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Tournament is so successful, I think the NCAA will give in to the demands of the Big 5 conferences and let them have their own division. Who knows, maybe the larger FCS football programs (like JMU and Liberty) will join up with the larger FBS schools? With ODU, GA- Southern, GA State, WKU, Appalachian State all moving up to FBS, it's already occurring before our eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveinop View Post
    Big East's demise and another one (Big 12?) might soon be on the endangered species list. Not too long after a four-team playoff starts in 2014, we're probably going to have four 16-team super conferences controlling an obscene amount of money."
    This split may also be the catalyst to get the Wakes and dooks out of big time football. My guess is this probably won't have any effect on Hoops or olympic sports.
    If, paying college athletes $2000 a year, which has been discussed, occurs, all bets are off. Leaving the NCAA for football only, or the "Big-Time" schools just say adios to the NCAA aren't out of the question.

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    I'd love it, but only thinks it happens if Wake/Duke drop voluntarily.

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