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    The A10 had a lot of good solid teams, but none would have finished top four in the ACC, and if they had played say the conference schedule VT played, 10-8 at best in conference.

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    Like Bilas said, it's not who you beat, it's who you lost to.
    Quote Originally Posted by TabbHokie View Post
    The A10 had a lot of good solid teams, but none would have finished top four in the ACC, and if they had played say the conference schedule VT played, 10-8 at best in conference.

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    Such a joke

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    Yea if that's the case then UVA has the best road win of any of those play-in game teams.


    It's a complete crapshoot at the end. You just can't put yourself at their mercy.

    Now imagine how awesome this is going to be when you're not arguing about team #38 in the field, but team #5. It's coming!

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Stewart View Post
    This year it's "How did they do on the road?"

    In justifying Middle Tennessee State (with 1 Top 100 win) getting in over, for example, Virginia (8 Top 100 wins), the NCAA selection committee chairman said, "We looked at how they played on the road, and Middle Tennessee State performed very well on the road."

    Two other times in the interview, to justify seeding or bubble selection, he mentioned road performance. (Never mind that the RPI takes this into account, probably too strong, IMO.)

    As an annual resident of the bubble for four years, I'm sensitive to what the Annual Arbitrary Bubble Elimination Criterium is. Sometimes it's OOC strength of schedule, sometimes it's how you finish (strong/weak), sometimes it's RPI, sometimes it's the color of your uniform, sometimes it's whether your coach can use "certifiably insane" in a sentence ....

    This year, it's "road performance". Good to know.

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    La Salle, MTSU, and St Marys had four combined top 50 wins, and UVA had six. The midmajors are gaming the system better than the BCS schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TabbHokie View Post
    La Salle, MTSU, and St Marys had four combined top 50 wins, and UVA had six. The midmajors are gaming the system better than the BCS schools.
    Basically the committee wants the BCS schools to play 30 top 100 games in order to make things equal. Slight exaggeration, but they clearly don't hold schools to the same standards.

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    This is a very valid point. The standards and criteria are different. They used to be different to get in. Now they're different for seeding. They are bringing"forced parity" to the tournament.

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    To be more correct, the committee will use any or all of those excuses in the same year to justify any of their choices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Stewart View Post
    This year it's "How did they do on the road?"

    In justifying Middle Tennessee State (with 1 Top 100 win) getting in over, for example, Virginia (8 Top 100 wins), the NCAA selection committee chairman said, "We looked at how they played on the road, and Middle Tennessee State performed very well on the road."

    Two other times in the interview, to justify seeding or bubble selection, he mentioned road performance. (Never mind that the RPI takes this into account, probably too strong, IMO.)

    As an annual resident of the bubble for four years, I'm sensitive to what the Annual Arbitrary Bubble Elimination Criterium is. Sometimes it's OOC strength of schedule, sometimes it's how you finish (strong/weak), sometimes it's RPI, sometimes it's the color of your uniform, sometimes it's whether your coach can use "certifiably insane" in a sentence ....

    This year, it's "road performance". Good to know.

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    Can't wait till we have a committee of wise men pick the college football playoff teams.

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Stewart View Post
    This year it's "How did they do on the road?"

    In justifying Middle Tennessee State (with 1 Top 100 win) getting in over, for example, Virginia (8 Top 100 wins), the NCAA selection committee chairman said, "We looked at how they played on the road, and Middle Tennessee State performed very well on the road."

    Two other times in the interview, to justify seeding or bubble selection, he mentioned road performance. (Never mind that the RPI takes this into account, probably too strong, IMO.)

    As an annual resident of the bubble for four years, I'm sensitive to what the Annual Arbitrary Bubble Elimination Criterium is. Sometimes it's OOC strength of schedule, sometimes it's how you finish (strong/weak), sometimes it's RPI, sometimes it's the color of your uniform, sometimes it's whether your coach can use "certifiably insane" in a sentence ....

    This year, it's "road performance". Good to know.

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    Despite going to the "road performance" well one or two times too many, I thought Bobinski did maybe the best job I've seen from one of these committee chairs in terms of conveying the arbitrary nature of the process. Basically, the ideal response to any question about the final bracket should be something along the lines of:

    "The job is to pick 37 at-large teams and then seed the field from 1-68. Any 10 people will come up with a different field of 68. Any 1000 people will probably come up with a different seeding list from 1-68. We look at a lot of different metrics and we watched a lot of teams play a lot of games this year, but given the human tendency toward subconscious bias there's a better than good chance that one team got in over another team because they look better in their uniforms. Other than that, I don't really know what to tell you. Where's the scotch?"

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