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    Quote Originally Posted by sacramento hokie View Post
    who will be stronger and run better routes. The oline will finally have a coach and will be at least as good as last year.The defense will be a top ten caliber and Exum will still play abeit not right away.However, we have lots of expereince in most parts of the defense and maybe the best front seven in football.

    Also, dont discount how much Logan will be improved by Scott Loeffler.He has done that everywhere he has coached
    I mentioned Coles, he's really the only proven pass catcher on the team. I need to see Knowles actually run routes before I can be sold on him, last year he had 1 route and it was run as fast as you can down the field. Let's be honest, his best season in high school he only had 25 receptions for 338 yards/6 touchdowns which doesn't scream starting wideout to me.

    I'd say the defense depends strongly on the play of Vandyke and Edwards, neither of the two looked "great" last year, and they'll need to be very solid next year. Along with that Bonner needs to really develop this offseason, he needs to be able to cover his half of the field especially with Exum out, and that's something he's proven time and again is a struggle. It also wouldn't hurt to have James Gayle live up to his potential.

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    Its a hard team to predict. I like the defense but have questions about the offense. I also hate rankings because so much depends on schedule and how it sequences, games aren't in a vacuum.

    Opening with Bama is bad news for a good team trying to rebound from an uncharacteristic season and with the O being the issue and a new OC, who may very well fix things but I would expect to see it in second half of season not first, and definitely not first game.

    The question is, if the psyche is already fragile what does a disaster against Bama do? The two early games to watch are @ECU and @GT. If you can win both those and start 4-1 going into the Bye then we are talking about a potential top 25. But if those split or god forbid lose both, it could be another 2012.

    I really look at your season in 3 chunks. The opening 5, the home games vs UNC and Pitt sandwiched between two byes, and then the closing 5 with only @Miami looking like a tough game.

    To answer the question I'll say 25, but I'd lean more towards 30 then 20 because I see more downside risk with so many variables that you all have listed.

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    Here is my number........................................!

    Quote Originally Posted by bourbonstreet View Post
    (yes, 4 new D-1 teams enter the fold next year)


    However, include the following in your calculations:
    * struggling 7-6 2012 season
    * 6 starters back on offense (LT3 did return)
    * new Offensive Coordinator/Qb-coach, new oLine coach, new Wr's coach
    * do they have their parts in 2012?

    * 9 back once Exum returns on defense
    * though who starts where in the secondary post-Ex?
    * who takes over 'backer and Whip?
    * the rest looks pretty tight

    * both Specialists return (Cody is prolly all-A.c.c.)

    Sooooooooooooooooo..............when you sum all of that up; where should Virginia Tech rightfully rank in national terms heading into the Spring???



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    7. South Carolina
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    11. Texas A&M
    12. FSU
    13. Clemson
    14. Michigan
    15. Kansas State
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    17. Wisconsin
    18. USC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havertown Hokie View Post
    Being a RAT... 70. However a RATT look at things... 30. Looking at a 7-6 season we would have been ranked about 55 based on W/L. We barely escaped being 4-8, which would be around 85.

    It is tough to be objective about where we have been last season and where we envision our team with new offensive coaches. Our defense is likely to be a top 10 defense (caution... we thought similar thoughts last year), but there's even less doubt about our D as most are returning from playing very good defense for the last month, almost doing enough to beat FSU.

    I bring the FSU game up for a reason. That was by far the best game VT played (as a balanced team) last year. I think this game should weigh heavy in trying to predict next season. Our offense should be better to significantly better, and our D should be playing at high level. The very best VT could do next year is 11-1, for the regular season. We would have to play like we did against FSU last year for the entire season... is that asking too much?? Probably and realistically. There's even a chance VT gets very lucky against Alabama, but let's be serious... VT is likely to lose by double digits to Bama. The Coastal division opponents are as stout as we have seen in the past 10 years... UNC, GT, Miami and PITT all have a decent chance to beat VT. BC, UVA, Duke as well as Marshall and ECU are about the same caliber teams, with each other... not that any of them couldn't have a great game the same time VT has a lousy game and pull off the upset. After last season... VT lost any presumptuous thinking about any of their opponents. A new offensive coaching staff will be out to prove their value immediately, and they don't have terrible players to work with. Our RB situation should be much better, but probably not up to the level we had with DE and RW and DW, but any kind of solid ground game will help the passing game and balance out the offense.

    I'm still leaning on a 9-3 season, hoping for better, knowing 8-4 is a good possibility as well. For me that puts VT about a 30 to 35 range. If our defense is a stone wall, and our offense figures out how to score... then VT should break into the top 25 again.

    A rational preseason prediction puts VT around 30 to 35 IMO.
    Just need to add a comment to answer B-Street's actual question. Heading into Spring I think VT's ranking should be closer to 40 or 45. We are still too close to that 7-6 season that could have been worse. We have a new offensive coaching staff, which we have been wishing for, thinking it would be an immediate upgrade to the coaches we had... but if you look at our new OC's success while VT was going 7-6, it isn't very encouraging... and Grimes was also associated with Auburn. So just looking at last season's results for both VT and the new coaches some could justify a ranking of 50 or worse, heading into Spring practice.

    I think our ranking could improve significantly by the Spring game, but that's going to have to unfold.

    If we see that Trey Edmunds is a beast at RB, and the others also show up... that could easily bump VT into the top 25 for preseason polls. Well, maybe not just our running game... we will need to see LT making progress on accuracy issues, and watch how quickly he adjusts to the new WRs and coaching. Our defense needs a little more help for the entire team to do really well, we just need to see it heading in the right direction with a few bright spots on offense to project how the team could be playing by the Alabama game.

    Again, from the previous post VT was very close to beating FSU when they were ranked #10... we played like a top 15 team that game... and we have most of our D back, and our offense seemingly has to be better than last year. By no means do I think VT will be ranked close to #15 unless we upset Alabama, or have a 10-2 season. I think the latter is possible.

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    18 ... Because I'm a huge optimist.

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    So you think we'll be better than we were in 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneHokie View Post
    #15...Not that I think VT is going to be great but one can pick apart just about every team's weaknesses. I do think VT hit the perfect storm last year (poor Defense early, Logan regressed, horribly OL & new RB, terrible OC, worst ST in some time). However, I expect the new coaches to make the offense better (how can it be worse?), I expect Logan to bounce back this year and I think the poor year last year will help. Things came too easy for him his first year starting. We will see much improved play on the OL, at RB, and at WR (effort wise at very least). Sometimes people need a reality check and I think the coaches and fans got theirs last year. We can rest on what we did in the past and we need to work even harder. Frank making changes tells me he's not ready to throw in the crowd. We have a much more manageable schedule.
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    To be fair, it's not that different from opening up in 2004 with USC after having a really dismal season in 2003.

    Quote Originally Posted by clemson81nc View Post
    Opening with Bama is bad news for a good team trying to rebound from an uncharacteristic season and with the O being the issue and a new OC, who may very well fix things but I would expect to see it in second half of season not first, and definitely not first game.

    The question is, if the psyche is already fragile what does a disaster against Bama do? The two early games to watch are @ECU and @GT. If you can win both those and start 4-1 going into the Bye then we are talking about a potential top 25. But if those split or god forbid lose both, it could be another 2012.
    "Upon examination, it was clear that the spine of the PATT wasn't fully formed and, therefore, quite easy to snap." - Charles Darwin, "The Origin of Species"

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    Somewhere Around # 22 - - Certainly BELOW most of the SEC 'crowd' !

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    maybe the best front seven in football? That is absurd.
    Quote Originally Posted by sacramento hokie View Post
    who will be stronger and run better routes. The oline will finally have a coach and will be at least as good as last year.The defense will be a top ten caliber and Exum will still play abeit not right away.However, we have lots of expereince in most parts of the defense and maybe the best front seven in football.

    Also, dont discount how much Logan will be improved by Scott Loeffler.He has done that everywhere he has coached

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