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  1. #11

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    #35

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    I'll go with #30

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    Anywhere between 35-40, I'm not sure how people can expect this team to be top 20, we're replacing NFL level senior wideouts with freshmen and an injured senior and senior OT's with guys who've never played, our QB regressed last year and had his worse performance in the last game he played, we're betting on another freshman running back to be our "secret weapon" and our best defensive player tore his ACL a month ago. As much as he tries, he won't be full strength until the draft next year, I doubt we get meaningful minutes out of Exum until game 5-6 at the earliest. And we replaced our OC with a guy who hasn't had any success coordinating an offense at a BCS level.

    Sure the defense could be great, just like they were supposed to be great to start last year. They had a fantastic finish, but if the offense doesn't get better (we haven't increased the talent, so the coaches better be great) this team is going to really struggle in a strong ACC coastal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soflahokie View Post
    Anywhere between 35-40, I'm not sure how people can expect this team to be top 20, we're replacing NFL level senior wideouts with freshmen and an injured senior and senior OT's with guys who've never played, our QB regressed last year and had his worse performance in the last game he played, we're betting on another freshman running back to be our "secret weapon" and our best defensive player tore his ACL a month ago. As much as he tries, he won't be full strength until the draft next year, I doubt we get meaningful minutes out of Exum until game 5-6 at the earliest. And we replaced our OC with a guy who hasn't had any success coordinating an offense at a BCS level.

    Sure the defense could be great, just like they were supposed to be great to start last year. They had a fantastic finish, but if the offense doesn't get better (we haven't increased the talent, so the coaches better be great) this team is going to really struggle in a strong ACC coastal.
    Good points. Inexperience at WR and our OL are my biggest concerns. I'm betting on better OC decisions (that opponents can't game plan against until later in the season), a Logan Thomas that starts clicking again, a defense that can still be stout w/o Exum and a more favorable schedule (no Clemson or FSU and UNC is at home). Now some might argue that an easier schedule doesn't necessarily make a team better just gives them an easier road but whatever. Hey, its all a crap shoot at this point and the Cubs fans have hopes reborn in Spring too.

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    20. Always been a defensive led team. Senior QB, senior PK, encouraging young punter, and (hopefully) an organized offense with an identity.

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    About 40. I think things may get worse before they get better. IMHO the big question and big picture concern is will Beamer release his grip on the O philosophy and allow the new staff to do what they want to do......

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    Don't know but if offense kicks in to help D and we finish in the top 20, these new coaches will have earned bonuses and fan support.

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    NationalChampions all the way baby.......

    After a rousing victory over Alabama its all downhill......

    Quote Originally Posted by bourbonstreet View Post
    (yes, 4 new D-1 teams enter the fold next year)


    However, include the following in your calculations:
    * struggling 7-6 2012 season
    * 6 starters back on offense (LT3 did return)
    * new Offensive Coordinator/Qb-coach, new oLine coach, new Wr's coach
    * do they have their parts in 2012?

    * 9 back once Exum returns on defense
    * though who starts where in the secondary post-Ex?
    * who takes over 'backer and Whip?
    * the rest looks pretty tight

    * both Specialists return (Cody is prolly all-A.c.c.)

    Sooooooooooooooooo..............when you sum all of that up; where should Virginia Tech rightfully rank in national terms heading into the Spring???



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    Disagree,did you guys forget a guy named DJ Coles, also Dimitri Knowles is a force

    Quote Originally Posted by HwoodHokie View Post
    Good points. Inexperience at WR and our OL are my biggest concerns. I'm betting on better OC decisions (that opponents can't game plan against until later in the season), a Logan Thomas that starts clicking again, a defense that can still be stout w/o Exum and a more favorable schedule (no Clemson or FSU and UNC is at home). Now some might argue that an easier schedule doesn't necessarily make a team better just gives them an easier road but whatever. Hey, its all a crap shoot at this point and the Cubs fans have hopes reborn in Spring too.
    who will be stronger and run better routes. The oline will finally have a coach and will be at least as good as last year.The defense will be a top ten caliber and Exum will still play abeit not right away.However, we have lots of expereince in most parts of the defense and maybe the best front seven in football.

    Also, dont discount how much Logan will be improved by Scott Loeffler.He has done that everywhere he has coached

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    Quote Originally Posted by bourbonstreet View Post
    (yes, 4 new D-1 teams enter the fold next year)


    However, include the following in your calculations:
    * struggling 7-6 2012 season
    * 6 starters back on offense (LT3 did return)
    * new Offensive Coordinator/Qb-coach, new oLine coach, new Wr's coach
    * do they have their parts in 2012?

    * 9 back once Exum returns on defense
    * though who starts where in the secondary post-Ex?
    * who takes over 'backer and Whip?
    * the rest looks pretty tight

    * both Specialists return (Cody is prolly all-A.c.c.)

    Sooooooooooooooooo..............when you sum all of that up; where should Virginia Tech rightfully rank in national terms heading into the Spring???



    TIA!
    b.street


    If we assume that Grimes is able to cobble together a decent offensive line (which would be an upgrade over last season), that Trey Edmonds will give us the big, physical RB that we need (assuming that Drew Harris doesn't make it), that Scot Loeffler can get Logan Thomas back to his 2012 form, and that D.J. Coles is ready to go at WR, then I could see us as high as 15th.

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